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IrishTom
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« on: April 28, 2017, 08:13:57 AM »


As we work to finalise the schedule for Season 11, and whilst waiting on agreement of venues and dates, APAT
welcomes feedback from players on Season 10, including WCOAP... whilst remembering that Season 10 was a special anniversary year where we concentrated on rewarding our players with Destination Vegas packages... we expect to return to a more traditional APAT National Championship weekend schedule in Season 11...

We hope to have confirmation with all venues next week, and of course when we have we will release Season 11 tour dates and venues immediately after... this will include the venue and dates for WCOAP 2018, with a WCOAP schedule confirmed within a month or two later....

Not forgetting... Season 11 'non-UK' destinations/dates already confirmed HERE

And finally, if you're heading out to Vegas during the time APAT and Prizewinners will be there (June 3rd-10th) then let us know via HERE


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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2017, 10:01:11 AM »

Another good WCOAP. Preferred Stratford for the past two years to Manchester, but understand the need to use a Grosvenor venue this year. Prefer Stratford because of the proximity to lots of decent food joints etc. 

On a poker note: can there be laminated game "plaques" for HORSE (and presumably 8-game, though I didn't play it), please? Quite cheap to do, and might save a lot of confusion for players and dealers alike.

Thanks again for all of the effort you guys put in.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2017, 10:04:17 AM »

Another good WCOAP. Preferred Stratford for the past two years to Manchester, but understand the need to use a Grosvenor venue this year. Prefer Stratford because of the proximity to lots of decent food joints etc. 

On a poker note: can there be laminated game "plaques" for HORSE (and presumably 8-game, though I didn't play it), please? Quite cheap to do, and might save a lot of confusion for players and dealers alike.

Thanks again for all of the effort you guys put in.

Thanks Gareth... and yep agree on 8-Game and HORSE we'll have them for 2018
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2017, 11:01:30 AM »

Not alot to change, Same again please. However I think over the last 2/3 seasons the online side of things could be better. I know that the focus is on the live game (so it should) but a bit more imagination with the online.   
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2017, 11:12:52 AM »

Not alot to change, Same again please. However I think over the last 2/3 seasons the online side of things could be better. I know that the focus is on the live game (so it should) but a bit more imagination with the online.    

Plans are afoot Wayne... but where does your imagination lead...
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 11:25:54 AM »

Not alot to change, Same again please. However I think over the last 2/3 seasons the online side of things could be better. I know that the focus is on the live game (so it should) but a bit more imagination with the online.    

Plans are afoot Wayne... but where does your imagination lead...

Should have known that question was coming,  Cheesy Will get back to you
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2017, 12:43:40 PM »

Tom,

WCOAP

Overall, I thought the WCOAP was top-notch. Casino was excellent, dealers were superb, TD & Cardroom management all great. Valets pretty good...there's never enough of those.

I agree the casino location is a little lacking as far as surroundings but the offerings inside were more then adequate for me.

The "break"

I know working around casino availability can be a problem but the 2 day break in the WCOAP was, it seemed to me, to be a bit off-putting especially for those travelling a long way. I'd hope that we can go without that next year.

Stud/Razz

Again, we have a pretty packed schedule as it is but there were a lot of comments about not having Stud & Razz as separate side events. Now I had thought before that these weren't popular but I've been turned around on that point.

The 8-Game & HORSE weren't real subsitutes so I'd like to see Stud & Razz make a comeback in S11.

PLO/PLO8

I'd like to see these separated in the schedule more. I was fortunate enough to FT the PLO but it meant that I had to late reg for the PLO8 when I was eliminated.

Those of us who love the 4-card game don't get enough opportunity to play live so moving these further apart on the schedule would be optimal.

Non-HE scheduling

This follows on the from the point above and I know working around all the other events can be tricky but I see the WCOAP as my opportunity NOT to play HE so having all the non-2 card events spread out would be a real treat.

Season 11

Side Events

I know I missed the side events this year  (although I understand the reasons why they had to be side-lined) so I'm looking forward to those coming back in S11.

Perhaps more of those.  Wink


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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2017, 14:03:46 PM »

Fantastic WSOP as usual.... my couple of pennies.....

Stud/Razz

Completely selfish and we are already spoilt with the 8-game and Horse but would love to see these return next year.

OFC

Needs a stronger TD than we had this year. We had a couple of renegade dealers who decided they would play their own rules regarding paying people off and could have been avoided by having a stronger TD making sure the rule was consistent across all tables.

Re-entry

Numbers for the main were impressive but I feel that with 3 day one's there could be room for 1 entry per day if busted. No stack merging and no carrying over biggest stack. Just re-entering another day 1 if 0 chips or stack surrendered before play.

Delayed advertised start times

This happened a couple of times from memory and I guess is unavoidable if dealer availability isn't there. However, with the no multi-tabling rule in place I decided not to play the Omaha so I could ensure that I could play the OFC because there was only a 2-hour advertised gap between the two. This turned into 4 hours (I think?) and had I known would definitely have played the Omaha expecting to bust in time or having built a stack to warrant missing the OFC.

Reporting was top notch as usual and the live stream was a great resource that will become more and more popular... Thanks Tom, Lucy, Leigh, Matt and Des for giving us 10 days to get excited about every year!
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2017, 15:49:19 PM »

thank you for a very enjoyable season , personally I thought all thestaff at the grovesnors where  helpful. the wcoap was brilliant although wasn't to keen on the area, don't think I would want my wife walking to nearest hotel(6-7 min walk) on her own at any time of day and wouldn't really want to spend more than a week there again... , also the  food places weren't great, would be ok for 2 day event, but personally I'm hoping  if wcoap is at a grovesnor (loved aspers but accomadation very expensive) hoping its blackpool where the team events was this season the casino is amazing as is location and to top it off accomadation is a very high standard for very cheap prices. also wish my local grovesnor(Portsmouth) was a lot bigger as that weekend for the uk champs was very popular in main and dest vegas side.
as no dest vegas packages looking forward to the side events, I'm hoping theses start early on day 2 and will be a mixture of the side events tht get played at the wcoap. i.e   at English have six max as side event,  horse at scotish, ofc (preferably ofc pineapple, I'm hooked)at uk etc  etc   
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2017, 16:56:47 PM »

Loved the WCOAP this year, only request for 2018/ season 11:

More small denomination chips in limit events.

Bring back Razz and Stud Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2017, 20:50:49 PM »

If the Scottish leg is in Edinburgh again try to avoid a six nations weekend as hotel prices go through the roof.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 06:10:04 AM »

If the Scottish leg is in Edinburgh again try to avoid a six nations weekend as hotel prices go through the roof.

We announce first...they'll have to work around us...right?
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2017, 08:10:04 AM »

I only have good things to say about Season 10. The Apat/Grosvenor partnership has been a great success in my opinion.

There are over fifty Grosvenor Casinos throughout the UK, many of them equipped with Poker Rooms (and bars) big enough to manage an onslaught of excited players.  Apat have benefitted from being able to arrange venues easier and more quickly and have had online satellites into their 'Live' tournaments on the Grosvenor Online platform.
 
Grosvenor has benefitted by gaining more members in the Casino and online, which in turn will lead to more awareness of their own comps 25/25 .seasonal comps and Goliath etc.
In each of the Apat Main Event tournaments that I attended I found the Grosvenor staff to be friendly and efficient. What more can you ask for.
The WCOAP was the highlight. I haven't been to many in the past but I certainly found out what I had been missing. I personally wasn't successful but I thoroughly enjoyed it. The atmosphere was fantastic at Manchester G. The Poker Room is one of the biggest outside of London and the Cardroom manager is excellent. His dealers respect him and are professional.
And last but not least the players have had a hell of a lot of added value from the partnership. Grosvenor added seats into their own gukpt and seasonal tournaments worth hundreds of pounds over the Apat season. This included the extra online Apat Christmas Cracker as well as the online Main Events.
The Destination Vegas packages were a one off promotion celebrating 10 years of Apat. Flights, Hotel and entry into the wsop bracelet event WOW not cheap.

On the subject of the WCOAP side events for Season 11. I do not have a preference for one or another, they are all a learning curve for me ,Stud, Razz and even Omaha I have had little experience with so far. So I will go with the flow on that one.
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2017, 23:10:59 PM »

I pretty much agree with everything Paulie said when it comes to the WCOAP...

For the other stops, trying to make them all mini festivals would be great.. maybe vary the Friday night game completely, NLHE side at 8pm sat and a PLO variant on Sundays just 1 hour after the main resumes
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2017, 13:06:16 PM »

I pretty much agree with everything Paulie said when it comes to the WCOAP...

For the other stops, trying to make them all mini festivals would be great.. maybe vary the Friday night game completely, NLHE side at 8pm sat and a PLO variant on Sundays just 1 hour after the main resumes

Mind read much?...I suspect you may be very happy with S11.  Wink
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