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Title: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 27, 2008, 12:49:18 PM
Before I start this, there are two points I would like to point out. Number one I am not a comedian, (me doing this is a joke in it's self) if you want a good laugh then go and read Swinbags. Number two I cannot spell so please don't put FYP or are you dyslexic? Let my save you the bother YES I AM. So why am I doing this, o yes the free seat. So ware do you start a blog? I will start at the beginning what a very good place to start doe, ray, me. (That's my attempt of a joke, see what I mean)

I will be going back to the beginning of APAT how I heard about it, why I joined, the ups and downs of season one. My thoughts on how APAT should grow. What I think about card runners. You will not get any bad beat stories like how I played three STT last night, got aces three times and all got beat. You will not here how I played for 4 hours in an MTT only to bubble.


To follow on


I will leave you with this

You have made the second day of an APAT national as chip leader; you are dealt AJo in EP you raise you get a re-raise and an all-in back to you, what do you do? For the answer ask Sir Percival
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: APAT on May 27, 2008, 13:05:03 PM
LOL at the last sentence. 

"In the beginning" a blog with attitude....way to go Nosey.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 27, 2008, 21:01:06 PM
Watching sky poker one night, this small grey haired wrinkled old man was rabbiting on about trains and train stations thinking that he must be the local nutter who had escaped from the local asylum I was reaching for the remote wondering if the playboy channel was on yet. When he started to talk about a new organisation called APAT and how it was amid at the recreational player. So I sat back put the remote down thinking that the free show on playboy did not start while 11, and listened to what this strange man had to say. After about two minutes, it was like he was talking about me someone who believed in himself but did not have the finance to achieve is goal. "Low buy-in tournaments with big buy-in starting stack giving you  the big game feel" are something on those lines, well it was two years ago I cannot remember exactly what he said. Then he went on to talk about things that only someone who was a card short of a full deck would understand, I think his name is Ironside
      The next day the latest edition of Pokerplayer fell through the letter box and in it was an article on APAT confirming that all what this old man (who would not look out of place in a nurseing home pushing a Zimmer frame around) was saying. The first thing that drew me to APAT was the structure of the on-line tournaments, at that time you could not get such a good structure for $20. The live bit did not interest me at first (more on this later) as it was good value at £75 but it was still out of my reach.
So the game began the first game of APAT on PS 200+ runners. Before the game had even started some Irish guy called Des was saying good luck to all the tables, "what a nice guy" I thought (more on him later). The one draw back was the wife; playing poker on a Saturday night was not her idea of a good time. But two bottles of wine later and she was fine. Five hours later I was on the final table, what I liked about it the most was the support of the other players who was watching the game, people who you have never met or spoke to before was wishing you luck and encouraging you, o and that guy called Des.
      Before this game my biggest buy-in was $5 (we all have to start somewhere) and the most I had won was about $200 so at $20 this was a big step up for me. The final table became heads up but unfortunately was unable to convert my 3 to 1 chip lead into a win but did get about $700 and a silver medal (I don"t what I liked the most the money or the medal, wait a minute.....it was the money)
        Two weeks later I FT again giving me the first back to back FT"s of APAT and I was first in the rankings this when I had my first run in with Des (what a nice guy)

.....more to follow


What do you do with AJ in EP on the final day of a national event?

Ask Sir percival
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on May 27, 2008, 21:48:04 PM
Stop now.  Let"s get the book deal sorted before you post anymore.

This is great stuff.  Keep it up.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: kinboshi on May 27, 2008, 22:29:48 PM

Stop now.  Let"s get the book deal sorted before you post anymore.

This is great stuff.  Keep it up.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: APAT on May 27, 2008, 23:27:19 PM


Stop now.  Let"s get the book deal sorted before you post anymore.

This is great stuff.  Keep it up.



I reckon now would be a good time to stop!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: HaworthBantam on May 28, 2008, 08:06:38 AM

Who"s this Des guy he keeps mentioning......?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 29, 2008, 19:04:25 PM
APAT goes live      

Feeling confident after my start to the season and now having the finance to enter the first APAT live tournament which was at Broadway, Birmingham. But how do you enter? Well it was done by a ballot, but I am ranked number one, I have played all the on-line games surely I will get a seat, won't I? NO I did not get one but I am ranked number one I have played all the on-line games surely they will make an a acceptation won't they, "NO" came back the answer from Des (what a nice man)

Talking point
      Now not being allowed to play and defend my lead was disappointing for me which was made more frustrating when I read the points was double in the live tournaments. So some won playing in their first game and finish in the top 8 will overtake me in the rankings. "This cannot be fair" went the e-mail "tough" the reply came back (that Des, what a nice man)

Your view 1
     What is the bigger achievement?
      Finishing 2nd and 6th in two on-line games with fields of over 200, in which everybody is allowed to enter or finishing on the FT of a field of 130 where only the lucky can play? Is it fair to have a championship where you are not allowed to play? (There were no qualifiers yet)
     Now I know the argument is "It's a bigger buy-in, it's a live game, it's over two days" but which is the biggest achievement? Remember at this point I have never played live so my only experience of poker is on the computer.

Your view 2
    Is on-line the same game as live? It's the same rules but is it the same game? Is there more skill playing live?

Over to you

Help wanted, how do you play AJo? Pleas PM Sir Percival with your answers    
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: APAT on May 29, 2008, 22:27:57 PM
It"s not even an argument  :D  it takes two days of head to head grind to get to an APAT live final table, while you can play in your boxers, with your feet up, online.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: billyho10 on May 30, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
i was planning on playing at the irish national in my boxers with my feet up, is that not appropriate  :o
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 30, 2008, 09:15:24 AM
Was thinking of the same thing, wait a minute I am not going. Make sure you have your camera with you      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: kinboshi on May 30, 2008, 09:17:38 AM
If you"d turned up at Broadway on the day, you"d have got a seat.

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: kinboshi on May 30, 2008, 09:18:05 AM

It"s not even an argument  :D  it takes two days of head to head grind to get to an APAT live final table, while you can play in your boxers, with your feet up, online.


I usually do away with the boxers.  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: monkeyman on May 30, 2008, 11:14:00 AM


It"s not even an argument  :D  it takes two days of head to head grind to get to an APAT live final table, while you can play in your boxers, with your feet up, online.


I usually do away with the boxers. 


Too much information! :-[
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 30, 2008, 11:19:31 AM

If you"d turned up at Broadway on the day, you"d have got a seat.




I know that now, but it was the first one and there was no reserve list (I think)

I am a Y-front man myself :o


Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: kinboshi on May 30, 2008, 11:39:00 AM


If you"d turned up at Broadway on the day, you"d have got a seat.




I know that now, but it was the first one and there was no reserve list (I think)


I was on the reserve list from the ballot.  69th out of 80-odd and knew I had a seat before the day.

But yes, as it was the first one, no one knew what the demand would be and if it"d be possible to get in on the day.

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I am a Y-front man myself :o


:o

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 30, 2008, 12:00:28 PM



If you"d turned up at Broadway on the day, you"d have got a seat.




I know that now, but it was the first one and there was no reserve list (I think)


I was on the reserve list from the ballot.  69th out of 80-odd and knew I had a seat before the day.

But yes, as it was the first one, no one knew what the demand would be and if it"d be possible to get in on the day.

Quote
I am a Y-front man myself :o


:o




You have allways been lucky  ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: kinboshi on May 30, 2008, 12:54:49 PM
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: billyho10 on May 30, 2008, 12:58:12 PM


Fortune brings in some boats that are not steered.
William Shakespeare



boats that are not steered.....mmmm....clearly shakespeare played some poker!  ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on June 01, 2008, 02:14:21 AM
Quaker ??.....That Donald Duck must be getting violent in his old age !!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 02, 2008, 20:21:28 PM
The Good Day"s

      Fine wine, good food, fast cars and loose women well not quite more like a can of tizer, chips and egg, a clapped out astra and loose women on the telly, but these were good days. Away from APAT, I started to play in bigger games now remember that before APAT I used to play in $2 or $5 STT and the same for MTT but now I was playing $20/$30 STT and the money was rolling in well not quite rolling in but dripping in. The biggest win was the $25k on pacific poker, from a $3 satellite into a $15 satellite to a $30 buy-in into an over $6000 win. The only one draw back was the wife "playing poker again, stopping in again, you keep on saying that you win but what have you got to show for it" so to keep Mrs Nosey happy I withdrew most of my bankroll (something I regret now, more on this later) but it did pay for a trip to Vegas, bought a new telly, paid for a new car (second hand, I did not win that much) but the wife was happy. In this period I also won the APAT South  African open and then second in the Chinese open putting me on top again which I held for next four/five month (not sure how long, Des can confirm) These were  good days. Then came my first APAT live game, my first ever live game was in Vegas, (there is plenty of blogs on Vegas, the best being ThinkerJE) Not a lot to say on this apart from the people I met, first of all that nice man Des followed by Richard (I didn't think that Shrek was an actuarial person) and that strange man of the telly. I am not going to mention the poker, it's not worth it but I will mention my first taste of fame. People knowing who I was, people I have never met new me it was a bit flattering. These were the good days          
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: APAT on June 02, 2008, 20:41:10 PM

The Good Day"s

...followed by Richard (I didn't think that Shrek was an actuarial person)...



how do you mean?










(http://lh6.ggpht.com/APATpoker/SERMZIy1vVI/AAAAAAAAApI/vxJYDTg3bks/Shrek.jpg?imgmax=400)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: TightEnd on June 02, 2008, 23:25:15 PM
ffs

he"s dead.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: APAT on June 02, 2008, 23:25:56 PM
lol.....
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 03, 2008, 06:42:05 AM

ffs

he"s dead.


Touchy  ::)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: HaworthBantam on June 03, 2008, 08:10:45 AM

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/APATpoker/SERMZIy1vVI/AAAAAAAAApI/vxJYDTg3bks/Shrek.jpg?imgmax=400)



(http://blondepoker.com/forum/Smileys/default/lachen78.gif)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: biffa85 on June 03, 2008, 09:22:28 AM
gotta be worth a lol or two, maybe even a roflmao.... ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 10, 2008, 12:58:28 PM
      After making my 5th FT, I was top of the rankings again looking down on all the peasants below me when along comes that guy of the magic roundabout who made his second FT and his second 2nd place. Which leads me back to an earlier question, what's the better achievement? Five on-line FT (fields of over 200) or two live (fields of 130/200). By now I had played 3 live games so I started to understand the differences in the two games (live vs. on-line) and appreciated that the skill level was for greater in the live game (by the way I did not make the dinner break in my first 3 live games).
   As we entered the closing stages of season 1, the race could not be any tighter. With ten people still able to win the only games left was the five on-line championships and two live, my hopes of winning was fading fast as I was now known as not being able to play live the only hope left was the championships. The first four came and went with no success then came the main event. After about four hours of play came the biggest hand of the whole season for me. We were down to 24 players I was 3rd in chips and was playing very very well.
     On the small blind dealt AA all fold to me wear I make a minimum raise, thinking I was on a steal he came back with a re-raise, which I called. Flop AKJ so I but about half pot bet he calls. The turn was a rag so I checked hoping he would bet out which he did so I went all in. After thinking for a while he calls (he had to by now he was pot committed). He turns over KQ, "yes" I was yelling then came the river "no" I was yelling as the ten appeared. And yes he was 2nd in chips so had me covered and I was out. This was the lowest point of the season for me, had I won the hand I was guaranteed to make the FT and probably gone back to the top. Playing for 10 months and the season comes down to one hand. Then came the news that the last live game would be an onlive game, so there is hope for me yet. Nope, crashed out early and the season was over.
    Finishing in 3rd was still a big achievement but I was a bit deflated after being at the top for most of the season but I was able to take something from season one. The first to make two FT, the first to make back-to-back FT, the first to get two medals, the first to get three medals (I think these are correct, Des will say if not)                                              
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: HaworthBantam on June 10, 2008, 14:26:26 PM

Finishing 3rd in season 1, Wayne, was a fantastic achievement.

And don"t let anyone tell you that you can"t play live, you"re welcome at my table anytime  :D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 10, 2008, 19:38:22 PM


Finishing 3rd in season 1, Wayne, was a fantastic achievement.

And don"t let anyone tell you that you can"t play live, you"re welcome at my table anytime  :D


I"m assuming thats because you think he can"t play live and you fancy your chances ?

;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: HaworthBantam on June 10, 2008, 20:01:36 PM



Finishing 3rd in season 1, Wayne, was a fantastic achievement.

And don"t let anyone tell you that you can"t play live, you"re welcome at my table anytime  :D


I"m assuming thats because you think he can"t play live and you fancy your chances ?

;D


Wayne and I sat on the same opening table in Dublin last year....very profitable...  :D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 11, 2008, 08:35:35 AM
That was only my 3rd live game; I have improved since then so Ian I will be glad to sit at your table, bring it on  8)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: HaworthBantam on June 11, 2008, 10:55:30 AM


....we need to organise that home game.....
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 11, 2008, 12:23:52 PM
OK don't forget to ask Stuart, easy money   :o
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on June 11, 2008, 20:56:33 PM

OK don't forget to ask Stuart, easy money...for him   :o


FYP
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 12, 2008, 12:03:10 PM
A J
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 17, 2008, 20:33:34 PM
The Dark Day's    



     There are only three things in life which are certain, you are born, you pay taxes and then you die. If you play poker for any length of time there is one thing that is certain, you will have a bad run. The question is how you cope with it. I would imagine that most of you have been there if not then you will be.
      My bad run came at the end of season one were I went 6 consecutive months of loses. I deposited £20 about four years ago and straight away I was making money, month on month I was in the black and then about one year ago I had a loss then another and then another. This by now was starting to concern me. I started to look at my game and tried to work out were I was going wrong and how I could turn it around but found what ever I did the run got worse. So I posted on the forum of my troubles and got good advice on what to do from different people especially from Daniel (Kinboshi) a lot of them I tried from taking a break, moving down a level, moving up a level, changing to a different game, but with no success.
      In an earlier post I mentioned that I had cash out most of my winnings to keep the wife happy. Now my bank roll was down to the last $100 and I said to my self "when this goes I would pack in poker". I was that down at the time that I was actually considering not playing any more. By now season two had started with the introduction of the live regional games. This is when I met Stuart (Sirpercivl) were we talked about actual hands, which helped me. I also made the FT finishing 9th which gave me confidence (I also learnt how not to play AJ). By now I was starting to win small games $2 STT (that's how low I got) but a win is a win no matter what the stakes are.
     I had gone back to playing how I played before the slump, trusting in my ability, hoping that things would turn around and slowly they did but still not making a profit but not loosing ether. Then came the game of my life a $5 MTT with 1600 runners. You have herd the expression "in the zone" that was me, I was on fire. 7 hours later and $1600 richer, I finished 1st
       The slump is over, all is well, the sun is shinning, and life is good. When you go through times like this, it's good to talk to other people but most importantly believe in yourself.                      
                   
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: monkeyman on June 18, 2008, 19:04:47 PM
Quality post. Well done
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: APAT on June 18, 2008, 20:18:01 PM
Great post Nosey.  I remember this downswing well.  I saved a bundle on postage to Wakefield.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on June 18, 2008, 21:09:10 PM

The Dark Day's    

     This is when I met Stuart (Sirpercivl) were we talked about actual hands, which helped me. I also made the FT finishing 9th which gave me confidence (I also learnt how not to play AJ).                      


Great post Wayne,
3 observations
1. Why is meeting me in a post titled "The Dark Day"s"  >:(
2. Glad that you recognise it was you who first jinxed AJ.
3. Are you saying I helped you win $1600? In that case, where"s my cut?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 23, 2008, 20:42:57 PM
The future (Garlic bread I've tasted it)

So for I have looked back to the start off APAT. I am going to gloss over season two as it's been a disaster for me and look into the future. (Crystal ball at the ready)

How to improve for season three, does it need improving? What's wrong with season 2?

In February I put a post on the forum   http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=1106.0
Were I gave my thoughts on the online game. So to go over a few points.

1 The cost should be $50
2 Only one game per month
3 To have added money
4 To be played on a Saturday

If you want to know why, read the post

Please leave any comments on here or on the post  

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Jon MW on June 23, 2008, 21:16:30 PM

The future ...
Were I gave my thoughts on the online game. So to go over a few points.

1 The cost should be $50
2 Only one game per month
3 To have added money
4 To be played on a Saturday
...


I vaguely concur.

Although I"m a little more flexible about 1 and 2.

1. I think between $20 and $50
2. Between fortnightly and monthly (depending on the answer to 1.)

I definitely don"t think it should go above $50 as this would price some people out and I don"t think people really want to have to satellite into an online game.

Another thought that was briefly brought up but largely forgotten was a non-ranking online event. If for example there could be an unashamedly expensive tournament with a super stack and super slow blinds (ie something new for Bluesquare) then some people might fancy their chances of satelliting and playing in that for the value of the prize pool and the super duper structure.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 02, 2008, 21:19:11 PM
Sacrifice  

    The date of the first APAT forum was announced, it's to be on the weekend of the 19th/20th of July. "Now how do I get in the team" but wait a minute that date rings a bell, s**t I have already got something booked for that day. I go to the test match each year at Headingly, this year it's against the South Africans. So do I now cancel the cricket so I can play poker or do I go to the cricket with my work mates and get rat arse like we have done for the past six years. First of all how do you get in the team? As it happens I would have had no chance off getting in, if they were five APAT teams I may have just got in as the 10th member if I was lucky.
    This got me thinking, what would you cancel to attend an APAT event? Now if you arranged to go out on the town with your mates, well that's easy you just go and play poker and get drunk, it's just that it's a different set of mates. What about a night out with the Mrs? Again easy there is seven nights in a week, just go out on a different night (its ok Mrs Nosey_p does not read this) how about a family party? Well for me again it's easy, with the size of my family nobody would even know I was not there plus we seem to have them every other week. But then it gets difficult, what about birthdays, anniversaries, weddings, and the birth of your first child. I could go on and on but you get the idea.
     The one sacrifice I made was at the end of season one, well I say sacrifice it was more like I was told to do something and I said no. With me in second place in the championship, we were down to the five on-line championships when the boss calls me in to his office and tells me that I would by working in Luxemburg for five days, it just so happened to be the same week as the games. I would miss four of the five games. So I stud my ground and refused to go, after about two hours off arguing I got my way (but it did not give my promotions any good). Let's face it, who wants to go to Luxemburg anyway.
      Now if I was prepared to get the sack so I could play on line, what would you sacrifice so you could play live? (I would not have got the sack, I don't think I would have :-\)  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: HaworthBantam on July 02, 2008, 22:08:48 PM

I"ve cancelled 2 gigs in order to play APAT tournies, when the clickfest was on a Saturday. Rest of the band weren"t too impressed but, priorities.....priorities......

I now ensure that we don"t book gigs on tourney dates.....
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Swinebag on July 02, 2008, 22:26:58 PM
I missed a City game to play in an APAT tourney

I also tend to get injured when indoor cricket clashes with clickfests.

I"ve never let poker affect my work though.........................yet!!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: monkeyman on July 02, 2008, 22:45:16 PM
I was refused time off work so I could take part in the 2006 WSOP main event. I"m still working for the same employer; maybe I"ve got my priorities wrong :"(
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 21, 2009, 12:10:11 PM
With the British Masters visiting Leeds in June. It's a tournament I would like to play in but with it being £550, it's out of my range.  If anybody is willing to stake me please pm me for more information or you can email me wayne1847.parker@virgin.net        
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 07, 2009, 13:40:27 PM
Now we have reached the half way point in the Poker League and with some post's already appearing on the forum, I thought I would give my view on the League.

You can fire up your computer, log on to any poker site and play in cash, STT and MTT games 24/7. What I am trying to say is if you want to play run of the mill poker then it's there in abundance. The Poker League offers you something different; you are no longer playing as an individual but as a team, not just a team but your local team. Playing for your town or city or were you were born in.

At the beginning of this season, it was said that APAT would have like the Poker League to be a live event but with the present climate this would not be possible, but would look at this again for season four. But how would a Poker League work in a live game? Would individual towns/city hold a game a month were you would travel to and have a MTT? Could it be club vs. club in a football league structure? Would Liverpool travel 200 miles for a £20 game? Would Nottingham put a team out? I don't know the answer to these questions. Apart from the Nottingham one  ;D

Now that the league is on line I believe that this is were it should stay. I am not saying there should not be a regional live game; it's the one thing that is missing from this season. I believe that they should be an APAT on line event for a low buy-in and this is it, something different.

They as been talk about the size of clubs, is it fair for a club to have 20 members and another to have 4? Again I cannot answer this, for me it does seem unfair but what is the answer?

As the league progresses to the later stages I can only see the clubs at the top of the leagues playing as the rest will have no chance of qualifying

To keep players interested in the league an individual league should have run alongside the club league in the same way, top 3 go through to a STT.

Should the leagues be smaller (5 leagues of 6)?
Could there be a promotion/relegation system?
Should there just be one league of 30 with a bigger point's structure?  
Instead of clubs can we have counties?
Should the league be shorter? (Less games)

What ever the future holds I will be 100% behind APAT.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on June 07, 2009, 14:19:28 PM
Quick reply cos far to many questions to answer. I love the league format, as Wayne says it is something a bit different, and the buy in is fine for us low budget players, unfortunately it does mean that for some of our members it doesn"t seem to be worth their effort which is a shame. 20 rounds may be a bit too long. Some sort of individual prize for players who are doing well but their team is out of it, in order to keep numbers up towards the end of the season is a good idea. But as Wayne said this tourney will have to stay on line, but I would love to see the return of a few regionals.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Honeybadg on June 07, 2009, 15:00:26 PM
If you changed it to two 9 week seasons and two finals then the existing format works really well.

I like the idea of an individual player MTT too - top 100 players across the leagues?

I think the $10+1 buy in is spot on. For the league you shouldn"t constrain people from playing.

If you have enough established clubs then I like the idea of divisions with promotion and relegation.

Looking forward to tonight"s game.

Louis



Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 11, 2009, 12:52:04 PM
Scared money

They say you should not play with scared money. I don't know who "they are" but I don't think that this is always right. The thinking behind scared money is if you play with money that you cannot afford to lose then it will affect your game (for the worse). Where as I think it makes you concentrate even more (you should be concentrating all the time anyway).

A few months back I met Stuart for a night out at our local casino. The conversation turns to the poker league and how well Leeds is doing. When I told him that I only had $11 left in my Blue Square account and when I lose it I will not play on BS again.

Since the start off season 2 I have not taken to BS. I know they are our sponsors but it's a site that I don't like. I am not knocking them just that some sites seems to suit you and some don't

Now with my $11 I had two options, to play the satellite to the Welsh on-line championship or play the next league game. I decided to play the satellite were a finished one off the seats but won $50 but I was still short off $5 for the game. So I hit the cash tables to get the $5 and entered the Welsh. Did I play my normal game or did I play scared?

I now have entered the Welsh Championships with my last $55 knowing if I lose then that's it for me with BS and APAT on-line games. So how do I play? Do I play my normal game or do I play scared? Which ever way you look at it, the result is that I came in the money, so my love of Blue Square is extended for now.

A few weeks go by, with no luck at the tables on BS (strange that the other 3 sites I play on, I am in profit). Down to my last $11 again, I enter game 5 of the league. Again knowing that this could be my last game. Do I play my normal game or do I play scared? The result is that I go on and win.

A couple of months go by and my BS account gets down to $11 yet again. My APAT life is on the line in game 11, which again I go on to win. Is this just a coincidence that when I need to win I do? Is it just variance? Or am I concentrating more knowing it could be my last game?

About two years ago I went through a very bad patch. One of the things I did, to try and get out of it was to play at a higher level than I normally do. I did not make any money at this level but it did make me concentrate more, why? When I dropped back down to my normal level, my game had improved and I was winning again.

So should you play with scared money?                        
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on July 12, 2009, 10:47:02 AM
Good question Wayne. I was recently in a very similar position with my BSQ account, and I stopped playing cash tables altogether and decided to really concentrate on the one and two table SNGs, I had to start on the $2 games, thats how bad my bankroll had got! And now I have built it back up to a decent level, I think it is really a concentration thing, but also when you are hanging on to a bank roll you are less inclined to make that risky call, and as such you reduce that variance.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on August 06, 2009, 16:13:12 PM
On my annual trip to Headingly this Saturday to do some Aussie bashing. Sitting in the main stand, behind the bowlers arm. Normally sit in the west stand so don't get to see much cricket, for the people who as sat in the stand will know what I mean. Then at lunch and tea will be in the Skylark.

It's like summer as started, sat in the sun with a pint watching the Npower girls walk up and down I mean watching the cricket. Just got to remember to put some suntan lotion on.  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: AMRN on August 06, 2009, 16:26:26 PM

It's like summer as started, sat in the sun...........   Just got to remember to put some suntan lotion on.  



why you trying to kid??!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: deanp27 on August 06, 2009, 17:03:03 PM
Western Terrace at Headingley tomorrow for me  :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on September 13, 2009, 13:20:59 PM
Cash

Since I started playing poker, I have played tournaments. I play STT with the profit I then enter MTT and what ever I win in the MTT, that's my profit. If I have a big win then I try the cash tables, were I go and lose and lose and lose some more. So I go back to MTT's until I have another big win than I will put my toes back in the cash pond only to get them bit off again

A few people keep telling me that my style of game should suite the cash game so this week with me being off work I decided to give cash another go. So I put aside $100 and hit the tables.

Rules

Buy-in $25 (0.10/.25)
Play 2 tables at a time
If I lose a buy-in, not to reload
Only play for 2 hours in one session
Not to play drawing hands pre flop (i.e. 87s) in any position
Not to play in first 3 positions unless I have AA, KK, QQ, AK
If I hit the flop, bet out, don't give free cards
If I miss the flop, the hand is dead, unless I get big odds to call
NEVER NEVER BLUFF even if I think I could get it through

So far I have had 5 sessions (10 hours) 2 loosing and 3 winning. After I finish a session I have been making notes on the session, how I played, what I did wrong, what I did right, and any key hands. One of the losing sessions I had AK 5 times which all lost and KK which lost to 6,8 (all on the same table). But the pleasing thing for me was that I only lost $10. All in all without going into too much detail, I am up $78. So that's $7.80 per hour in profit.  

My aim is to get to $500 before I move up a level but as I only play at the weekends, this may take some time.

I know this is a very small sample and I will need to play at least 100+ hours before I can get a true reflection.    

Any thoughts on my rules?      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on September 13, 2009, 14:36:47 PM

Cash

Since I started playing poker, I have played tournaments. I play STT with the profit I then enter MTT and what ever I win in the MTT, that's my profit. If I have a big win then I try the cash tables, were I go and lose and lose and lose some more. So I go back to MTT's until I have another big win than I will put my toes back in the cash pond only to get them bit off again

A few people keep telling me that my style of game should suite the cash game so this week with me being off work I decided to give cash another go. So I put aside $100 and hit the tables.

Rules

Buy-in $25 (0.10/.25)
Play 2 tables at a time
If I lose a buy-in, not to reload
Only play for 2 hours in one session
Not to play drawing hands pre flop (i.e. 87s) in any position
Not to play in first 3 positions unless I have AA, KK, QQ, AK
If I hit the flop, bet out, don't give free cards
If I miss the flop, the hand is dead, unless I get big odds to call
NEVER NEVER BLUFF even if I think I could get it through

So far I have had 5 sessions (10 hours) 2 loosing and 3 winning. After I finish a session I have been making notes on the session, how I played, what I did wrong, what I did right, and any key hands. One of the losing sessions I had AK 5 times which all lost and KK which lost to 6,8 (all on the same table). But the pleasing thing for me was that I only lost $10. All in all without going into too much detail, I am up $78. So that's $7.80 per hour in profit.  

My aim is to get to $500 before I move up a level but as I only play at the weekends, this may take some time.

I know this is a very small sample and I will need to play at least 100+ hours before I can get a true reflection.    

Any thoughts on my rules?      



Great that your trying real poker for a while Wayne.  ;D

I would suggest your $100 bankroll is a bit low for 10c/25c. I would either have a roll of $250 or move down to 5/10c. $500 sounds right for 25c/50c

2 tables is good. Certainly most people tell me no more than 4 if you want to improve. I was playing up to 10 but it was very much to a formula and not enjoyable any more. I now play between 2 and 4.

Not re-loading seems reflective of your bankroll / level. Dropping down would allow reloads after bad beats. If you are getting your money in good you want to stay at the table.

Not playing suited connectors might make you a bit predictable but I can see your logic

First 3 positions need strong hands

Betting out after the flop is good but you may need to mix it up a bit and c bet when you miss as well. Remember you will miss most flops - but so will they!

Didn"t think you bluffed in MTT either  ;)

1 final thing - GET POKERTRACKER  ;D

all IMHO of course.
Stuart
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on September 13, 2009, 19:43:20 PM
0.05c/0.10c seem to get more bad beats at this level as more people will call with anything.

Not to reload, See scared money. I do have a bigger bank roll than $100 but giving me a limit makes me focus.    

Mixing it up, most tables I have played on, the players come and go so the turnover of players is high and therefore don't get a reed on me.

I NEVER BLUFF

I only play about 4/5 hours a week, plus I play for the fun and trying to beat my opponents, having pokertracker is like keeping an ace up your sleeve (cheating ::)) if I played more or if I did this for a living then yes pokertracker would be a must.      

What is a good $ per hour for this level? I was aiming for $10  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 12, 2009, 11:19:34 AM
A quick update on how my cash adventure is going.

Not played much, just played 17 hours over a month.

$180 in profit so that's around $10.50 an hour which is what I was aiming for.

At one stage I was up $220 and got a bit cocky so I started to play 4 tables which were against one of my rules. But after losing around $60 in one session I soon reverted back to 2 tables and back to winning ways.

Overall I don't like cash I don't get the same buzz as going all in on a bluff (which I never do) in a tournament and getting your opponent to lay down there hand. But if I keep winning at over $10 an hour then I will stick with it for now.

Should I be moving up to $0.25/$0.50 or is it too soon?

Played some live poker this weekend which is a rarity for me. Visited Alea in Leeds for the forth time at cashed for the third time, ok it was not as big cash just my buy-in back but can not complain. Then I played at the Gala and got my Aces bustard (live poker so rigged)      

Cashed for over $600 on PS finished in 5th my pocket kings v's A 10. 1st place paying $2600 which would have been nice as I have just got a garage bill for £900  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: coprey on October 12, 2009, 13:40:36 PM

Scared money

I now have entered the Welsh Championships with my last $55 knowing if I lose then that's it for me with BS and APAT on-line games. So how do I play? Do I play my normal game or do I play scared? Which ever way you look at it, the result is that I came in the money, so my love of Blue Square is extended for now.

A few weeks go by, with no luck at the tables on BS (strange that the other 3 sites I play on, I am in profit). Down to my last $11 again, I enter game 5 of the league. Again knowing that this could be my last game. Do I play my normal game or do I play scared? The result is that I go on and win.

A couple of months go by and my BS account gets down to $11 yet again. My APAT life is on the line in game 11, which again I go on to win. Is this just a coincidence that when I need to win I do? Is it just variance? Or am I concentrating more knowing it could be my last game?

About two years ago I went through a very bad patch. One of the things I did, to try and get out of it was to play at a higher level than I normally do. I did not make any money at this level but it did make me concentrate more, why? When I dropped back down to my normal level, my game had improved and I was winning again.

So should you play with scared money?                        



It has been said that scared money is dead money, and I would generally agree. Playing scared, IMO, is when the money you can potentially lose has a great deal of importance to you. I could imagine a situation where I am on the bubble in the WSOP, for perhaps $25,000. I could imagine myself playing scared through each money level.

I find it difficult to imagine how playing $55 or $11 could ever fall into the caregory of playing scared. It may have busted your bankroll on blue square, but you can still play other sites or even break your own rules again and reload.

Playing at 25c/50c id recommend a slightly larger bankroll than $500, perhaps $750 - $1000. A bad cash run can be very expensive esp when playing above your limits.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: deanp27 on October 12, 2009, 13:51:07 PM
if you are going to grind up cash games then i think you should employ proper bankroll management and play the limits you are "rolled for. 4 buyins at 25nl is playing with scared money and you could get your chips in as 70% fav and lose them all = busto. Plus not reloading when busted and things such as that are not good for long term profit, especially if a fish has just 2 outered you and you have good expectation if you reload.

even playing well, 10 buy in downswings are not uncommon, therefore your bankroll has to be sufficient to cope with this.

for this reason i would continue grinding 25nl with the "roll you have until you have at least $1k. Even $1k can be a small roll for 50nl, but i guess you play kind of conservative compared to me (and i assume full ring as opposed to 6max tables)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on October 12, 2009, 15:19:44 PM
I used to play cash all the time, and loved it when running well, but as Dean says the downswings can be a killer. I have now switched almost exclusively to SNGs and MTTs and am enjoying my poker a lot more, cash can be such a grind and pretty boring. Having said that Wayne, 17 hours in a month is hardly nose to the grind stone stuff  ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 12, 2009, 18:20:15 PM
The problem is that you can grind it out for 17 hours playing cash for a profit of $180 or play a tournament for 6 hours and get $600. The trouble is that I will probably go 6 month before I get a cash like that. But then again I could play tomorrow and win $2000

I will be sticking with the cash tables for now with the odd tournament throne in. My first aim is to get to the $500 so that's $220 to go.

The trouble is that I don't play enough so this is going to take some time; I just hope I don't get bored of it.  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 12, 2009, 18:24:22 PM


for this reason i would continue grinding 25nl with the "roll you have until you have at least $1k. Even $1k can be a small roll for 50nl, but i guess you play kind of conservative compared to me (and i assume full ring as opposed to 6max tables)


Yes I am as tight as a ducks a** so my swings may not be as big as yours and I play full ring games.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 12, 2009, 18:28:22 PM

I used to play cash all the time, and loved it when running well, but as Dean says the downswings can be a killer. I have now switched almost exclusively to SNGs and MTTs and am enjoying my poker a lot more, cash can be such a grind and pretty boring. Having said that Wayne, 17 hours in a month is hardly nose to the grind stone stuff  ;)


I only play at the weekends so it's hard to get more hours in bearing in mind that I play tournaments as well. I tried to play both at the same time but found it hard to concentrate on both so it's one or the other.  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on October 12, 2009, 19:04:00 PM
Can I ask why you play poker?

May seem a stupid question but is it to make money or is it to have fun? some people can lose and still have fun (isn"t that right Ger  ;) ) Other people don"t enjoy poker if losing. Maybe you can be a winning player but if you find it boring do you really want to continue? Maybe spending the winnings is the fun part?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on October 12, 2009, 19:26:40 PM

some people can lose and still have fun (isn"t that right Ger  ;) )


I would argue - but i"d lose
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on October 12, 2009, 19:30:11 PM


some people can lose and still have fun (isn"t that right Ger  ;) )


I would argue - but i"d lose


you"re still a winner in my book mate.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Waz1892 on October 12, 2009, 20:42:44 PM


some people can lose and still have fun (isn"t that right Ger  ;) )


I would argue - but i"d lose


but your having fun tho!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 28, 2009, 04:00:37 AM
Braking news

"I have just caught a burglar" well the police have

Trying to brake in to the house and then next door.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on October 28, 2009, 08:27:29 AM
I guess he heard about your poker bankroll stuffed under the bed!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: deanp27 on October 28, 2009, 09:35:01 AM
dodgy area imo
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on October 28, 2009, 09:48:56 AM

Braking news

"I have just caught a burglar" well the police have

Trying to brake in to the house and then next door.



pays to stay up playing poker doesn"t it  ::)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 28, 2009, 09:49:29 AM

I guess he heard about your poker bankroll stuffed under the bed!


Sorry Stuart but being waken up at 3.00am with someone in your house, I don't find funny, anyway I keep it in the teapot  

Woke up at 3.00 am, phoned police 3.02, by 3.08 3 people arrested, by 3.30 in police cell. Excellent job by the Police

Will get let out at 12.00 with a slap on the wrist, by tonight they will be at it again. Bad job by the Magistrates      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on October 28, 2009, 09:51:56 AM


I guess he heard about your poker bankroll stuffed under the bed!


Sorry Stuart but being waken up at 3.00am with someone in your house, I don't find funny, anyway I keep it in the teapot  

Woke up at 3.00 am, phoned police 3.02, by 3.08 3 people arrested, by 3.30 in police cell. Excellent job by the Police

Will get let out at 12.00 with a slap on the wrist, by tonight they will be at it again. Bad job by the Magistrates      



Ah - they were in and you were in bed, not good. Glad to hear it worked out all right. Personally I would have wrapped a 3 iron round their heads, but then the magistrate would put me away, silly law................
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 28, 2009, 10:00:11 AM
7 iron beside the bed
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Laxie on October 28, 2009, 10:44:03 AM
Glad it worked out ok and you"re not hurt.  No idea how lucky you are to have police who respond so quickly.  Takes them anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes to make a call out around here.  Which is why you always ring the neighbours with their shot guns first...and the coppers after.   ;)  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 28, 2009, 12:41:40 PM
The bit about being in the house was made up; I was trying to make Stuart feel guilty. Luckily I was already awake thinking of the play I made on Duke with my 72o. When I heard noises from the garden then someone trying the door, by which time I had got to the window to see them walk off to next door and do the same there. When I went outside the *******s had nicked my sky cable! And about another 20 house on the estate.

The police was there within minutes and court them in the act. 
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: MintTrav on October 28, 2009, 12:42:57 PM
Happened to me once. I"m quite glad that I slept through and just discovered it in the morning.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: lukybugur on October 28, 2009, 13:15:30 PM
Glad you"re OK Wayne, scary stuff. Keep that 7 iron handy but don"t get reckless.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 02, 2009, 15:00:18 PM
Just got word from the police. "We have cautioned the robbers and let them go"

So they have caused damage to 15 houses, was caught in the act, it tuck two police cars 1 police van at the tax payers cost.  Spent the night in a warm cell had breakfast then let them go?  Just so they can do it all over again
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on March 11, 2010, 17:01:58 PM
Have not posted on here for ages that's because I have nothing to say

Thank you  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on March 11, 2010, 17:08:39 PM

Have not posted on here for ages that's because I have let my poker do my talking

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_X5lM7YiBEWc/S5kjaiJ2nuI/AAAAAAAABbM/I_2L4dEnMdo/trophy.jpg)

Thank you  



FYP
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on March 11, 2010, 18:27:55 PM
Thanks for reminding me

Will I ever see it in the flesh?  8)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on March 11, 2010, 19:28:18 PM

Thanks for reminding me

Will I ever see it in the flesh?  8)



I"m still waiting for it back myself.   ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on March 11, 2010, 21:34:21 PM


Thanks for reminding me

Will I ever see it in the flesh?  8)



I"m still waiting for it back myself.   ;D


Can I have a share of the virtual cup on my blog too please  ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on March 12, 2010, 12:50:03 PM
I have got some news, going to Nashville and Vegas in October

3rd trip to Vegas but never been to Nashville so if anybody has been there and got some advice on were to visit let me know  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on April 11, 2010, 09:53:42 AM
    I have not played live since the team championships in January. (By the way did I tell you that we won and I made the FT) not through choice but I have had a busy start to the year with work and family. Unable to play at the Vic this weekend as it's my 40th and Mrs. P would not appreciate it me being in a casino all weekend. I don't now if she as got anything planed for me but when I said "I'm going to play poker" she gave me a look that told me "no your not, I have been planning this for 6 months and you are not going to spoil it by enjoying yourself with your friends doing what you like to do on your birthday". So I backed down and said that "I would prefer to spend my birthday with you", got me some brownie points.

   So this weekend was the first time and the only time for the next couple of months that I was able to play live. Me and Stuart have been saying for some time that we will get down to play at DTD in there 20/20 or the super50, but when I phoned him up he had already planed on playing at Bolton. Then when I checked DTD website, this weekend you had to qualify on-line (no direct buy-in). So I joined DTD played my first MTT and qualified

   DTD was streaming the tournament for the first time and I was on the TV table only for them to have problems with the sound and showing of the cards. Don't know if any of you sore it but you will know how I play.

 The tournament itself was run as usual to a high standard. Duke came in late and I also see that TK was playing in it.    

  I over played trip 7's early on apart from that I was card dead for five levels. Then I got the famous hand, AJ. Early position raise to 1200 (150 / 300 blinds) me on the button decided to see a flop (8500 chips) flop of Q, 10, 9. Villain bet out 1800, I thourt this was a C bet and with at least 8 out's maybe more, plus they could fold I decided to push only for the villain to call with second pair, and I was gone.        
             
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on April 11, 2010, 10:14:16 AM
Hi Wayne, got the message from Leigh you were on the feature table, so tuned in just in time to see some bald guy push all in, thought it was you, but turned out to be some other slap head! You all look the same from an overhead camera  ;)
Happy Fortieth by the way, have a great weekend.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 11, 2010, 10:26:24 AM
So the world cup is here and to make things more interesting I have set myself a challenge. To have a bet on every game (64 matches)

I have deposited £100 in an online site which they have matched so straight away I'm up 100%

I will post my selections on here

Since I will be busy this weekend I have made my bets already

Starting balance £200

Bet 1 Mexico to WIN £5 @ 13/8
Bet 2 France DRAW £2 @ 11/5
Bet 3 Greece DRAW £2 @ 21/10
Bet 4 Argentina / England Double £5
Bet 5 Slovenia to Win £5 @ 5/4
Bet 6 Serbia to WIN £5 @ 11/10
Bet 7 Germany half time / full time £5 @ 6/5
Bet 8 Argentina HALF TIME / FULL TIME £5 @ 1/1  

Balance £166
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: bigredders on June 11, 2010, 12:23:44 PM
GL with this Wayne, although think you might not get a result in your first game. The home nations have never lost in their opening game in any world cup!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 11, 2010, 12:57:27 PM
Didn"t know that till this morning, but had already put the bet on yesterday
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on June 11, 2010, 15:24:43 PM
Good luck with this Wayne. Look forward to following your progress.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on June 11, 2010, 17:40:15 PM

Bet 1 Mexico to WIN £5 @ 13/8 oops
Bet 2 France DRAW £2 @ 11/5
Bet 3 Greece DRAW £2 @ 21/10
Bet 4 Argentina / England Double £5
Bet 5 Slovenia to Win £5 @ 5/4
Bet 6 Serbia to WIN £5 @ 11/10
Bet 7 Germany half time / full time £5 @ 6/5
Bet 8 Argentina HALF TIME / FULL TIME £5 @ 1/1  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 12, 2010, 09:52:40 AM


Bet 1 Mexico to WIN £5 @ 13/8 oops  >:(
Bet 2 France DRAW £2 @ 11/5  ;D
Bet 3 Greece DRAW £2 @ 21/10
Bet 4 Argentina / England Double £5
Bet 5 Slovenia to Win £5 @ 5/4
Bet 6 Serbia to WIN £5 @ 11/10
Bet 7 Germany half time / full time £5 @ 6/5
Bet 8 Argentina HALF TIME / FULL TIME £5 @ 1/1  

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 13, 2010, 22:19:19 PM
8 bets down 56 to go

4 winning 4 loosing

Balance £204.65

Bet 9 Van Persie to score first £3 @ 10/3
Bet 10 Italy to win £5 @ 6/5
Bet 11 Camaroon to win £5 @ 11/10

Balance £191.65
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 15, 2010, 12:22:21 PM
Yesterday was a disaster with no winners

Balance £191.65

Slovakia to win -1 £10 @ 6/4
Portugal draw £5 @11/5
Brazil to win -2 £10 @ 11/10

Balance £166.65
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 16, 2010, 11:15:58 AM
Somebody told me that there is a world cup on at the moment. So far I have not seen any evidence to support this. I know the first games are always tight affairs, nobody wanting to loose in the first game but not this tight. Hopefully Spain will get this world cup going. The second round games should be allot better as teams will have to open up and go for the win.

Balance £182.65

Bet 15 Chile / Spain double £10 @ 1.14
Bet 16 Uruguay win £10 @ 6/4

Balance £162.65    
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on June 16, 2010, 11:36:52 AM
"nobody wanting to loose in the first game but not this tight"

Like watching you play poker Wayne! ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 16, 2010, 12:01:40 PM

"nobody wanting to loose in the first game but not this tight"

Like watching you play poker Wayne! ;)


Was you on my table on Sunday?  :D

My game as changed  ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on June 16, 2010, 18:54:15 PM
what? you changed your raising hands to QQ+ rather than KK+ ?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on June 16, 2010, 18:57:20 PM

what? you changed your raising hands to QQ+ rather than KK+ ?


That"s just cruel - he owned me with 7 2 FFS
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 16, 2010, 19:45:28 PM
Have I got a reputation as being a tight player, I will have to use this to my advantage   ::)

7 2 is the nuts
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on June 16, 2010, 20:10:32 PM


what? you changed your raising hands to QQ+ rather than KK+ ?


That"s just cruel - he owned me with 7 2 FFS


misclick FTW  ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 17, 2010, 10:20:59 AM
Spain, Spain, Spain F******G Spai

Starting Balance £187.65

Bet 17 Nigeria win £5 @ 11/10
Bet 18 France win £5 @ 5/4
Bet 19 Argentina -1 win £5 @ 2.05

End Balance £172.65
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 18, 2010, 10:09:03 AM
At last the world cup as come to life, some good games over the last two days.
How bad are the French got to be one of the worst teams, and I got them in the works sweepstake.  :(

Time for England to show the world how to play football "it's coming home, it's coming home, football"s icoming home"  

Starting Balance £182.70

Bet 20 Germany/Serbia over 2.5 goals £5 @  2.05        Serbia need the points Germany will counter attack  GOALS
Bet 21 USA draw £5 @ 9/4                                      Both teams cannot afford to lose
Bet 22 Englang to win half time/full time £5 @ 4/5       England will come out with a point to prove  

Balance £167.77
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 19, 2010, 10:45:46 AM
Should Rooney be playing?  

Is Johnson a defender?

For me both should be dropped with Heskey. Bring in Dawson move Carragher to right back, put J Cole on the wing bring in Defoe with Gerrard playing behind him  

So far 22 bets loosing £10.85

Starting Balance £189.15

Bet 23 Ghana to win £5 @ 6/5
Bet 24 Cameroon to win £5 @ 2/1                  
Bet 25 Holland to win -1 £5 @ 5/4

Balance £174.15
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 20, 2010, 09:32:28 AM
Not a good day yesterday, the first blank day

Balance £174.15

Bet 26 Slovakia/Paraguay draw £5 @ 9/4
Bet 27 Italy to win 3-0 £2 @ 13/2
Bet 28 Brazil/Ivory Cost draw £5 @ 12/5  

Balance £162.15
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 21, 2010, 12:33:38 PM
Another blank day, time to start chasing which is not a good thing to do but at least it's my own money. :o

Starting balance £162.15

Bet 29 Portugal/Span double £20 @ 0.53/1
Bet 30 Chile win £5 @ 6/5  

Balance £137.15
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 22, 2010, 13:24:51 PM
Bet 29 Uruguay to Win DNB £10 @ 10/11             I know it"s a nailed on draw but i have a feeling
Bet 30 France to Win £5 @ 6/5                          i Know i"m a mug
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 22, 2010, 19:02:23 PM
I new the French was a bad bet

Bet 31 Argentina to win $10 @1/2
Bet 32 S.Korea to win £5 @ 7/5
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 23, 2010, 14:55:44 PM
Bet 33 England Half Time / Full Time £5 @ 11/10
Bet 34 USA to Win £5 @ 10/11
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 23, 2010, 17:27:56 PM
Bet 35 Serbia to win £10 @ 5/6
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 26, 2010, 08:28:48 AM
Have not updated my last few bets but I had Paraguay/Italy double, Portugal win DNB, Ivory Cost win and Spain/Switzerland double. If Switzerland had won then I would have been back over the £200 mark

Recap

Started with £100 which was matched so I have £200 to play with but I have to work through £600 worth of bets before I can make a withdrawal.

Had 39 bets so far and I'm down £30 and I have bet through £350 so I need to get through another £250 and be above £100 to be in profit.

Start Balance £170

Bet 40 Uruguay win £10 @ 10/11
Bet 41 USA draw £5 @ 21/10

End Balance £155
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 27, 2010, 07:36:51 AM
Starting balance £190

Bet 42 England to qualify £30 @ 5/6
Bet 43 England draw £5 @ 11/5
Bet 44 Argentina to win £20 @ 8/15

End balance £135
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on June 27, 2010, 10:00:35 AM

Started with £100 which was matched so I have £200 to play with but I have to work through £600 worth of bets before I can make a withdrawal. Had 39 bets so far and I'm down £30 and I have bet through £350 so I need to get through another £250 and be above £100 to be in profit.


My head hurts LOL
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 27, 2010, 10:41:16 AM


Started with £100 which was matched so I have £200 to play with but I have to work through £600 worth of bets before I can make a withdrawal. Had 39 bets so far and I'm down £30 and I have bet through £350 so I need to get through another £250 and be above £100 to be in profit.


My head hurts LOL
Which bit has made it hurt?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on June 27, 2010, 10:54:26 AM



Started with £100 which was matched so I have £200 to play with but I have to work through £600 worth of bets before I can make a withdrawal. Had 39 bets so far and I'm down £30 and I have bet through £350 so I need to get through another £250 and be above £100 to be in profit.


My head hurts LOL
Which bit has made it hurt?


Could be the alcohol last night  ;D ;D I think I am "with the program" now -- GL with the rest
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 27, 2010, 11:35:35 AM




Started with £100 which was matched so I have £200 to play with but I have to work through £600 worth of bets before I can make a withdrawal. Had 39 bets so far and I'm down £30 and I have bet through £350 so I need to get through another £250 and be above £100 to be in profit.


My head hurts LOL
Which bit has made it hurt?


Could be the alcohol last night  ;D ;D I think I am "with the program" now -- GL with the rest
I thought you was connected to a alcohol drip 24/7
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 28, 2010, 13:40:19 PM
Bet 45 Holland to win £20 @ 2/5
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 28, 2010, 16:54:19 PM
Bet 46 Brazil to win £10 @ 8/15
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 02, 2010, 12:28:44 PM
Starting Balance £95

Bet 49 Brazil to win £10 @ 10/11
Bet 50 Uruguay to win £15 @ 11/10
Bet 51 Argentina to win £15 @ 11/8
Bet 52 Spain to win £15 @ 1/2

End Balance £40

Cashed in £85 so only £15 down on my starting amount but I still have the 4 bets above plus £40 left which I cannot withdraw until I have bet £600 in bets which I'm up to £540
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 06, 2010, 11:22:59 AM
Bloody quarterfinals

Got bored on Saturday so I had a £30 bet on a horse which finished 3rd (Fallon needs a good kicking)

Cleared my £600

Starting balance £32.50

Bet 53 Holland to win £13 @ 8/13

End balance £19.5 (+ £85 already cashed)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 06, 2010, 16:45:36 PM
Caution

When sending emails, make sure that the person you send them to is the same person that replies and not your boss

I will leave it at that  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 07, 2010, 16:27:27 PM
My head says "Germany", my hart says "don't be stupid"

Balance £40.50

Bet 54 Germany/Spain draw £10 @ 12/5

End balance £30.50
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on September 17, 2010, 10:21:14 AM
Just been looking back at the WCOAP and noticed that I was the top Englishman in the ME. Does this mean I automatically get a place in the England team next year?

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on September 17, 2010, 11:16:40 AM

Just been looking back at the WCOAP and noticed that I was the top Englishman in the ME. Does this mean I automatically get a place in the England team next year?

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Er, very much doubt it Wayne.  ;) But you"d be in my team!!!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on September 17, 2010, 12:34:15 PM


Just been looking back at the WCOAP and noticed that I was the top Englishman in the ME. Does this mean I automatically get a place in the England team next year?

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Er, very much doubt it Wayne.  ;) But you"d be in my team!!!


Lets hope you are captain next year  :D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: ian.ski309 on September 17, 2010, 13:10:51 PM

Lets hope you are captain next year  :D


Aye, Mike McTavish for captain... but which team ?!  :D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 12, 2010, 16:25:02 PM
Graceland, the house was alot smaller than I imagined
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on October 12, 2010, 18:19:03 PM

Graceland, the house was alot smaller than I imagined


Was he home?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on October 12, 2010, 19:09:22 PM
I heard that he had left the building. :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on October 12, 2010, 19:12:25 PM

I heard that he had left the building. :)


He might have been at work down the chip shop.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 12, 2010, 23:21:10 PM
I think he was in bed, we was not alloud up stairs

Off to a honky-Tonkin bar
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on October 13, 2010, 09:41:52 AM
Or off jammin with his "Little 4 piece band"
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: PHIL_TC on October 13, 2010, 11:18:04 AM

I think he was in bed, we was not alloud up stairs

Off to a honky-Tonkin bar


Was in Nashville for July the 4th this year... amazing experience and did some serious Honky-Tonkin bar crawls. Good times :) Enjoy!
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: pables on October 13, 2010, 19:25:24 PM


I think he was in bed, we was not alloud up stairs

Off to a honky-Tonkin bar


Was in Nashville for July the 4th this year... amazing experience and did some serious Honky-Tonkin bar crawls. Good times :) Enjoy!



Serious "I was in Nashville on July 4th" brag post IMO :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 13, 2010, 20:58:58 PM
Off to the "Wildhorse saloon" for some footstomping toe tapping line dancing fun "yee ha"
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: ian.ski309 on October 14, 2010, 09:15:41 AM

Off to the "Wildhorse saloon" for some footstomping toe tapping line dancing fun "yee ha"


I"m beginning to see you in a new light Wayne... are you into Morris Dancing too ?  ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 16, 2010, 13:19:32 PM
That"s Nashville done. Now on to the main bit of the holiday "VAGES"

I only Morris dance at th weekends
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 15, 2011, 10:51:02 AM
Where as all these blogs come from

Since you are all setting yourselves challengers (poker or non poker) this is mine

One aim this year, to play in a higher tournament. My first goal is to play in the UKIPT at Nottingham or Manchester. With only a small bankroll the only way is to qualify so for the next two weeks I'm trying for the DTD leg.

I have given myself £200 too hopefully qualify for one of these games      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 15, 2011, 11:30:58 AM

Where as all these blogs come from

Since you are all setting yourselves challengers (poker or non poker) this is mine

One aim this year, to play in a higher tournament. My first goal is to play in the UKIPT at Nottingham or Manchester. With only a small bankroll the only way is to qualify so for the next two weeks I'm trying for the DTD leg.

I have given myself £200 too hopefully qualify for one of these games      



Good luck with this Wayne.  I certainly think you have the game to perform well at these higher buyins.

I"m told that the satellites on DTD"s site are pretty soft, mind you, that"s coming from some of the BCPC. ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 20, 2011, 21:20:28 PM
I have had two goes at the £3 re-buy on DTD but no luck. So for it's cost me £22, the buy-in for the qualifier is £75 so may be I should just buy-in instead of trying to get in on the cheep. I don't know why I even tried them as I hate re-buys. You spend time building your stack for some loony to take your chips away with K 10 and then 4 9 so then you have to re-buy 1500 chips with blinds at 150 / 300 and the average chip is 7000, I HATE RE-BUYS.

My second thought is just to play S&G I normally do ok with them, just grind away until I reach the £75 mark or just play 1 at £20 and hope for the best. The trouble is, I now won't be playing poker now till Sunday so I will have to win just before the game.

The third choice is to get somebody who has a few quid to put the money up for me (which I cannot see happening) but I would do a very good %  ;)

The fourth choice is to win next weekend   ;D        
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 02, 2011, 23:13:34 PM
A bit of catching up to-do

First of all thanks to APAT for another great weekend. Theses team events are becoming the event I look forward to the most. Only been to two but I have enjoyed them both. The reason for this is the banter you get and the railing from your team mates makes the atmosphere great. Teams like the Newcastle poker forum and LPPL make this event a must. For those of you who don't rail your team mates on the Sunday, shame on you. With this being a team event you should be willing to last the weekend not just until you bust out.

Thanks to Paulie for inviting me to play for LPM, unfortunately I was unable to contribute with any points; but I was railing right to the end. A big thank you to Michael, Matthew and Paul for getting the points and to the rest of the team for making my fell like a soft southerner.   I have never been to London in my adult life but I did fly over it once.

The significance in this win is that this makes me the first to hold 2 National Title's. (Even if it is by default)

What also surprised me was that last years team all agreed that the trophy that we won last year would be kept with me. I don't know what to say to you all but thanks. It's is a team trophy so you can have it when ever you want it. It's on tour at the moment with Andy.

With the trophy and medals I have, I need to build a display cabinet to show them all off; does anybody have any experience in this field?  

It seems that I'm a bit of a luck box in this event so if anybody wants to book me now for next year then offers start at 2 pints of larger and a packet of crisps.

I won £312, when I got home Mrs P says "the washing machine is broke, we need a new one" can anybody guess how much it cost?  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on February 03, 2011, 09:12:41 AM

 
I won £312, when I got home Mrs P says "the washing machine is broke, we need a new one" can anybody guess how much it cost?  



£320?

There is a simple answer to your wife"s spending problem. Play more poker  ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: samuel_9 on February 03, 2011, 09:48:29 AM


 
I won £312, when I got home Mrs P says "the washing machine is broke, we need a new one" can anybody guess how much it cost?  



£320?

There is a simple answer to your wife"s spending problem. Play more poker  ;D
wash by hand keeps them away from the poker room ;D ;D and dont let your wife see this
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 03, 2011, 13:31:19 PM


 
I won £312, when I got home Mrs P says "the washing machine is broke, we need a new one" can anybody guess how much it cost?  



£320?

There is a simple answer to your wife"s spending problem. Play more poker  ;D


Close enough £314.98

She's willing to take the profits but not to stake me, bit like Abigail  

[/quote]wash by hand keeps them away from the poker room ;D ;D and dont let your wife see this
[/quote]

No she does not come on here although she as looked over my shoulder a few times which as got me into trouble

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 05, 2011, 09:29:10 AM
With all these betting threads on here and other sites, it's wet my appetite. I have not had a bet for 3 months now (sounds like I'm at a AA meeting) until today. I don't normally have this kind of bet, the most I have is a treble or fourfold but for a change I have had a 8 timer on the footy.

     
1   Everton v Blackpool (Backing  Everton @ 1.43)

2   Man City v West Brom (Backing  Man City @ 1.41)

3   Newcastle v Arsenal (Backing  Arsenal @ 1.67)

4   Tottenham v Bolton (Backing  Tottenham @ 1.63)

5   Torquay v Stockport (Backing  Torquay @ 1.57)

6   West Ham v Birmingham (Backing  West Ham @ 2.01)

7   Bournemouth v L Orient (Backing  Bournemouth @ 1.78)

8   Northampton v Barnet (Backing  Northampton @ 1.76)


Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on February 05, 2011, 12:43:03 PM
lol at a r s enal failing the abusive language check
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: noble1 on February 05, 2011, 15:52:31 PM

With all these betting threads on here and other sites, it's wet my appetite. I have not had a bet for 3 months now (sounds like I'm at a AA meeting) until today. I don't normally have this kind of bet, the most I have is a treble or fourfold but for a change I have had a 8 timer on the footy.

     
1   Everton v Blackpool (Backing  Everton @ 1.43)

2   Man City v West Brom (Backing  Man City @ 1.41)

3   Newcastle v ****nal (Backing  ****nal @ 1.67)

4   Tottenham v Bolton (Backing  Tottenham @ 1.63)

5   Torquay v Stockport (Backing  Torquay @ 1.57)

6   West Ham v Birmingham (Backing  West Ham @ 2.01)

7   Bournemouth v L Orient (Backing  Bournemouth @ 1.78)

8   Northampton v Barnet (Backing  Northampton @ 1.76)





nosey-p"s lucky? pin  :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: mal666 on February 05, 2011, 15:58:27 PM


With all these betting threads on here and other sites, it's wet my appetite. I have not had a bet for 3 months now (sounds like I'm at a AA meeting) until today. I don't normally have this kind of bet, the most I have is a treble or fourfold but for a change I have had a 8 timer on the footy.

     
1   Everton v Blackpool (Backing  Everton @ 1.43)

2   Man City v West Brom (Backing  Man City @ 1.41)

3   Newcastle v ****nal (Backing  ****nal @ 1.67)

4   Tottenham v Bolton (Backing  Tottenham @ 1.63)

5   Torquay v Stockport (Backing  Torquay @ 1.57)

6   West Ham v Birmingham (Backing  West Ham @ 2.01)

7   Bournemouth v L Orient (Backing  Bournemouth @ 1.78)

8   Northampton v Barnet (Backing  Northampton @ 1.76)





nosey-p"s lucky? pin  :)

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Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 06, 2011, 19:39:14 PM
OK, so my picks was so so but i got half my stake back with the Betfair offer. Plus thank"s to Liverpool i finished the weekend up (who needs Torres) Note to self "keep away from the horese"

Have not played any poker of note, was hoping to play the Sat on DTD tonight for the UKIPT but due to lack of sleep (big Saturday night out) plus up early Monday for work, I'm giving this a miss. So I will be giving my all to qualify for the Manchester leg .

If anybody goes in the G at Manchester, can you let me know if there are having any sat's. Ideally freezout but I know they are mostly re-buy's which I hate    
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on February 06, 2011, 20:18:52 PM

OK, so my picks was so so but i got half my stake back with the Betfair offer. Plus thank"s to Liverpool i finished the weekend up (who needs Torres) Note to self "keep away from the horese"

Have not played any poker of note, was hoping to play the Sat on DTD tonight for the UKIPT but due to lack of sleep (big Saturday night out) plus up early Monday for work, I'm giving this a miss. So I will be giving my all to qualify for the Manchester leg .

If anybody goes in the G at Manchester, can you let me know if there are having any sat's. Ideally freezout but I know they are mostly re-buy's which I hate    



Let me know if you are going over as I would like to join you, operation permitting.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 10, 2011, 13:49:31 PM


OK, so my picks was so so but i got half my stake back with the Betfair offer. Plus thank"s to Liverpool i finished the weekend up (who needs Torres) Note to self "keep away from the horese"

Have not played any poker of note, was hoping to play the Sat on DTD tonight for the UKIPT but due to lack of sleep (big Saturday night out) plus up early Monday for work, I'm giving this a miss. So I will be giving my all to qualify for the Manchester leg .

If anybody goes in the G at Manchester, can you let me know if there are having any sat's. Ideally freezout but I know they are mostly re-buy's which I hate    





Let me know if you are going over as I would like to join you, operation permitting.


Will do

How is the home game coming along?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 12, 2011, 10:32:17 AM
Two four folds today and one draw

Bet 1                       Bet 2
Bournemouth            Coventry
Bury                       Doncaster
Wycombe                Leeds
Chelsa                    Hull

Bet3
Man U / Man C
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 24, 2011, 19:10:58 PM
Flaws


  One of the things you do when playing poker is to better yourself, by becoming a better player you win more money. And you get better by identifying flaws in your game. When you do identify a flaw in your game you rip it out, dissect it and find out why it's a flaw and how to put it right. When you have worked it out you put it back into your game and hope for the best. Well I have one (probably more than one) a big fat juice one and it's all APAT's fault. It's like having a mole on your face with hair growing out of it but when you look in the mirror you see a young good looking hansom smooth face looking back. So what's this flaw I here you all say, well let me tell you
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on February 24, 2011, 21:40:26 PM
I"m not leaving until you tell us.   ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 25, 2011, 06:34:17 AM
    I have to take you back to the beginning, not the beginning of APAT or the beginning of my poker career but further back, all the way back to the day I was born. Now allot of you will be saying that being born in the first place is a flaw but I will ignore those people and continue.

   I was born into a gambling family, my dad gambled, my brothers gambled and also my mum and sisters. Don't get me wrong I'm not talking about gambling the wages away so there's no food or we couldn't pay the bills. I'm talking about Saturday afternoon, World Of Sport on the tell and dad having a bet on the horses or playing cards like pontoon, bus stop and find the lady. So right from an early age I was gambling. By the time I was in my teens I was out side the bookies asking people who was going in take bets in for me. By the time I was 15 I was going in the local pub, now that's when the real gambling started. Not me, but seeing other people come straight from work and loose the wages then having to borrow it back so he could give it to his Mrs. "What's this got to do with poker" I hear you say, stick with me.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on February 25, 2011, 09:03:01 AM

   I have to take you back to the beginning, not the beginning of APAT or the beginning of my poker career but further back, all the way back to the day I was born. Now allot of you will be saying that being born in the first place is a flaw but I will ignore those people and continue.

   I was born into a gambling family, my dad gambled, my brothers gambled and also my mum and sisters. Don't get me wrong I'm not talking about gambling the wages away so there's no food or we couldn't pay the bills. I'm talking about Saturday afternoon, World Of Sport on the tell and dad having a bet on the horses or playing cards like pontoon, bus stop and find the lady. So right from an early age I was gambling. By the time I was in my teens I was out side the bookies asking people who was going in take bets in for me. By the time I was 15 I was going in the local pub, now that's when the real gambling started. Not me, but seeing other people come straight from work and loose the wages then having to borrow it back so he could give it to his Mrs. "What's this got to do with poker" I hear you say, stick with me.


Oh come on Wayne, this is going to take all year  ;)

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 25, 2011, 09:18:33 AM
At work now so you will have to wait till tonight Mickey  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: ian.ski309 on February 25, 2011, 09:36:20 AM

At work now so you will have to wait till tonight Mickey  


What a slow roll !  ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: samuel_9 on February 25, 2011, 09:45:14 AM
finish work early and finish this im kur ie us
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: samuel_9 on February 25, 2011, 09:46:42 AM
im going 2 have 2 do 1 of these blogs someday ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 26, 2011, 09:50:06 AM
 Ever since I have been getting a wage I have had a bet at the betting shop but only money I could afford to loose and only money I had in my pocket. Always loosing, but I did not mind as I looked on it as paying for entertainment. Then I found poker which I tuck to straight away. The first site I played on was Pacific 888 where I was quit successful. Then moved on to Pokerstars and Fulltilt looking for bigger and better games. I was never going to win a big tournament like the Sunday comps but I had a few four figure wins. Then came the big horrible nasty APAT.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: samuel_9 on February 26, 2011, 11:01:24 AM
Odear i dont like the last line ...........BUT as NAT KING COLE said ...There may be trouble ahead..BUT wile theres the APAT and the fish in the card rooms  lets shuffle up and deal..
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 27, 2011, 11:31:27 AM
  The first season was with Pokerstars which was good, it all went well finishing third and winning a few $ on the way. Then we had new sponsors and we moved to Blue Square for two seasons and then onto our current sponsor Betfair. For those of you who have not figured it out yet. 888, Pokerstars and Fulltilt don't have sports books. I know 888 does now but when I played on it they didn't. You see the flaw is not with the poker it's with the gambling (I know I do have flaws). In the early days, all I did on-line was play poker and had a bet on a Saturday at the bookies with only the money I had in my pocket. But now I do my gambling on-line and never go to the bookies. When I went to the shop you can keep a better check on your loses plus I find it harder during the working week to get to the shop, not any more a few clicks and another £10 down the drain.

 Now that I have identified the flaw I have to cut it out, so that would mean I have to play on sites that do not have a sports book. This would mean not playing on Betfair which in turns mean not playing in APAT comps. You see I win at poker and loose at gambling but how do I stop using my poker winnings?

 I started of this storey as a bit of tongue in check but now I'm not to sure. Do I have a problem? The good thing is that I'm only using my profits and not using my wage income so I don't have a gambling problem (if I started chasing then I would) but it's defiantly affecting my bottom line

 This is how bad I have been running. Blonde have a tipping comp going. So for I have picked 7 selections 3 have won 4 have lost but have made a profit so not bad until I tell you that the 3 that won I didn't put any money on them and the 4 that lost I did. FML :"(        
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on February 27, 2011, 12:24:27 PM
I believe you can self exclude from the variuos parts of Betfair but if you employ a mind coach (like me) then you can sort it long term.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on April 05, 2011, 09:15:24 AM
Monday Madness

Last night sore the start of three leagues all of which I had said I was going to play in and on top of that is the Furness game. The problem is that my laptop is old, when I open more than two windows it starts to cry. And if I open a Sky window it starts righting it's will out.

The first game of the night was the Bunch of Fives. I hung around for over an hour before getting inpatient and then donking my chips off (cannot remember my exit hand). While waiting for the Blonde league to start I fired up another game on 888 which is a mistake knowing that my laptop is going to struggle.

By now I have two games going the 888 and the Sky Blonde league so in total I have 6 windows on the go and the lappy is on its knees begging me to stop. The next game is about to start which was the Chezger league also on Sky. Unfortunately the laptop was saying "put me out of my misery" so I was unable to play in this.

I played in the Furness game a few times but since we have moved from Betfair to 888 I emptied my account so I won't be playing in these anymore, sorry Paul.

I have never liked Sky poker; I don't like playing 6 handed, I don't like the software but wanted to support the two leagues. After I had to reconnect about 4 times I found myself on the FT only to self implode on the money bubble when there was a short stack trying to ladder (bad play by me). At the same time we were down to two tables and in the money in the 888 game. When I decided to push with 22 into the chip leader (another donk move).

The next big night is on Thursday when I will have 3 games on the go, the multy tabling is not the problem, it's the laptop trying to cope with it.

I can see Monday's are going to be allot of fun      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 17, 2011, 11:39:12 AM
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 28, 2011, 12:13:06 PM
Off to the cricket this Saturday to see England become World Number 1. I normally go to Headingly but for the second year running they don't have a test match so it's off to Trent Bridge. Never been there before so I have no idea how to get there. Arriving by train so looking for a pub that does a good fry-up with a pint of larger at 9.30 in the morning on route from the station to the ground. Someone told me that there is a Hooters on the way; the trouble is if I go in I may not get out. ;) If you can recommend a pub around the ground it would be appreciated.

There's a group of 10 of us going. We start off watching the cricket with a pint of course. By the lunch break we head out of the ground to the nearest pub then back for the afternoon session. But by then the crowd is more entertaining than the cricket so not much cricket gets watched. Same again for the tea interval but this time we don't normally get back to the ground. The problem this year is that I have to get a train back to Wakefield so I have to be sensible. The Mrs is scared that I'm going to be that hammered that I'm going to miss the train or even worse get off the train at Sheffield with my mates and end up in a police cell.

And to think I could be in Glasgow this weekend.      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Swinebag on July 28, 2011, 15:59:29 PM
surely just end up in DTD then get the first train back on the sunday?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on August 09, 2011, 17:08:53 PM
Did it again this Saturday, played the $3 tournament at 9.00am on Stars when after 6 hours I had to go out. I knew this before I started so why did I enter it. I was in 6th place with 15 left out of 1350 runners, the decision I had was "do I just go all in on every hand or just sit out and try to ladder" the difference this time around is I was only going to be 30 minutes so I sat out. When I returned I was still in but now I was 9th out of 9 with only 8BB, I finally finished 3rd for $390. But why did I enter it in the first place when I knew I had to go out?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on August 17, 2011, 13:15:23 PM
Just received a speeding ticket from the New York Police Deportment for speeding in a 55 zone this morning at 7.25 "Can you please download this form and fill in your details and return it"

I wish i had a car that did 55 :D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on August 23, 2011, 12:15:04 PM
In keeping with other blogs

"2 more sleeps till Coventry and 5 more till Nottingham"

Hope to catch up with you all as I have not played live since Coventry    
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on September 06, 2011, 11:16:38 AM
Several words get used all the time like "feeling confident, playing well, variance, running good and in the zone" but are these words another way of saying "I got lucky"?

All poker players will agree that they is luck in the game, depending on who you ask you will get a different view on how much.  

Feeling Confident
CONFIDENCE (noun)
 The noun CONFIDENCE has 5 senses:
1.   freedom from doubt; belief in yourself and your abilities
2.  a feeling of trust (in someone or something)
3. a state of confident hopefulness that events will be favorable
4. a trustful relationship
5. a secret that is confided or entrusted to another

I have only felt confident once, last year when playing the ME at DTD. Des asked me "are you feeling confident" (like he does with us all) but for the first time I said yes and meant it. Confidence is a self believe in yourself, you feel that you have an edge on all the other players but how do you measure confidence? Is it how much money you have won, how many tournaments you have won or can you be the worse player in the world but you still feel confident that this tournament is going to be the one.

We all enter tournaments thinking we are going to win or what is the point in entering. But how many times do you believe you are going to win, what outside events effect you? Did you have an argument with your partner, are you having problems at work, did someone cut you up on the way to the casino, did Ger buy me that drink.  All these can affect your game.

In sport allot of the top players have mind coaches particular in golf. To help clear your mind of crap like "did I set sky to tape coach trip or I need to pick some milk up on the way home" so they can focus on the shot in hand. Can this be the same in poker? I know they are books about this but do they work?

Like I said earlier I have only felt confident once when starting a tournament, why I felt different this time around than any other time is a mystery to me but I did. I enter all tournaments on the belief that I'm going to do well but don't expect to win. I finished 3rd in the tournament playing some off the best poker I have ever played. Was this a coincidence or did I get lucky?

Playing Well

What does playing well mean? You can lose (not cash) for 20 games in a row but you can still be playing well or you can be the worse player in the world and cash all the time. But who decides if you are playing well or not? They is only one person who can tell you this YOU. I have gone through periods when I think I'm playing well but not seeing any rewards but still felt good about my game, this is when the word variance gets used, but can it be overused?  Do we use the word variance to cover the cracks in our game? Does it mask how bad we are playing or is it another word for unlucky?

Running Good

I play about 16 MTTS in a month (500 + runners) I cash about 4 times of them and run deep twice (out of the 4) and FT once (out of the 4) and for every 4 times I FT I will be in the top 3 once. So on that basis I run good once every four month or every 64 games, is that good or bad? On those stats if I was to play 16 MTTS a day I will run good every 4 days. You see players on TV who always seem to be running deep in tournaments but how many tournaments have they entered? For me "running good" is in the short term or another word for "got lucky more than once in a week"

In The Zone

In over 6 years of playing poker I can only say I have only used this saying once when I played an online MTT were everything went perfectly, my big hands got paid, I laid down big hands, I ran big bluffs, I played the player (not the cards) my chips was never in danger. In short I played the perfect game. But I played the same way as I did in other games and not win or even cash or not made the first break so why would I use the phrase "in the zone" just because I won an MTT? Could it be I got Aces against Kings 4 times, could it be I flopped the nuts more times than I can remember, could it be that my opponents was laddering rather than playing for the win? Or is, in the zone another way of saying "I got very very lucky"

So my question to you is would you prefer to be "confident, playing well, running well, in the zone" or would you prefer to be lucky or is it the same thing?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on September 06, 2011, 11:31:19 AM
Nice post Wayne. Lucky every time!!
Strange what you say about being focused or confident or in the zone. I have actually said to the Mrs on two occasions when playing an online MTT, "right I"m gonna win this tonight", and on both occasions run deep. Once coming second for a four figure pay day, and FTing the other. Weird.
But we all know you can"t run deep without Lady Luck on your shoulder, you have to win the flips when they come. I went through a period of about 10 live tournaments in a row when I got my chips in with the best of it and was outdrawn on every occasion, I seriously thought about quitting!! There is nothing worse than playing a solid game and continually being outdrawn.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: thinsy147 on September 06, 2011, 13:14:38 PM
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: TheSnapper on September 06, 2011, 14:29:03 PM
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on September 06, 2011, 19:49:06 PM
Great post Wayne. We need to meet up for a beer or 2 to discuss this one in more detail.

As you know I believe a good mind coach is the way forward for anyone struggling in these areas. I have one, and my attitude to the game is so much better now. I haven"t put in the volume to demonstrate improvement in my game but I KNOW that it"s there. In fact, part of the reason I haven"t been playing as much is because of my mind coach helping me realise other parts of my life that needed to be sorted first.

I could go on and on about this but if I did then it would seem like I was writing my own blog........must get back to that sometime.

If you, or any APAT"ers want to learn more about a "mind coach" or "life coach" (his preferred term) then PM me.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: ian.ski309 on September 06, 2011, 20:16:48 PM
Interesting post Wayne, very thought provoking.

Confidence counts for a lot. I remember watching you play during the latter stages of the ME at DTD last week when it was down to about 16 runners. There was a raise in front of you and then you shoved... I know a little about the way you play and I remember thinking to myself, "He"s got a premium hand there." The confidence with which you shoved your chips over the line got most players to lay their hands down - even though I"d greatly overestimated the size of your pocket pair  ;)

Assuming that we always play well, the only thing better than confidence is running well - that and minimising distractions on and off the felt.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Swinebag on September 06, 2011, 21:41:35 PM
top post wayne

I think I play OK but any decent result I get is always credited to "running good"
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: AAroddersAA on September 07, 2011, 09:35:45 AM
POTY candidate right here from Wayne.

Feeling good and confident tends to mean you are more likely to make the right play, even when it is a really difficult play. Playing badly means you are more likely to try and force something to happen usually involving bluffing in the wrong spot (I did this at the WCOAP main event this year). Most importantly feeling confident allows you to move on from tough decisions more easily, for example making a big laydown and being able to forget about it and move on. Or figure out that somebodies line does not make sense and make a big correct call. I would say this sort of thing constitues playing well. As you move through your tournament this often makes you fell even more confident. You will still lose most of the time but if you play most tournament"s like this you will end up a big winner.

Feeling good and not having distractions during the tournament is important. At APAT not wondering what is going on at the bar or wanting to go and talk to other people more than you want to play poker is helpful.

When you are playing well and not letting distractions influence you I would say you are "in the zone". This is not in itself getting lucky, however if you are playing in the zone and get a bit of luck you have a good chance of winning/running deep.

When you play well but still get knocked out early or get unlucky you probably don"t think about it so much, when you are feeling "in the zone" and win some significance gets attached to it.

I would prefer to be "in the zone" as my confidence will grow by making consistent good decisions, I can"t control getting lucky and just have to trust it will happen eventually, I can control how I play.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on September 07, 2011, 10:26:06 AM
Thanks for the replies

I always thought of poker as a game of skill with a bit of luck chucked in. However after looking at my game recently and looked into my results and how I exited the games I came to the conclusion that Skill is much bigger then I thought. Probably not what you expected me to say.

Most of my exit hands I would class as "damage hands" what I mean by this is that the damage as all ready been done before my exit hand for what ever reason. What I'm trying to find out is why? Did I get unlucky, did I not feel confident, is it variance and was my mind not on the game.

I started playing poker as a hobby; I had seen it on Late Night Poker and thought this is for me so I borrowed a computer to have a go. Put £20 in and never looked back. Then APAT came and I started to play live and discovered that the poker I have been playing is not the same game as what I'm playing live. Playing on line is a bit robotic you see a lot of the same moves and the same plays over and over again, which is a good thing as you can make money but you see more variance due to the more hands you play. So to win a MTT you may have to play 600/700 hands to win but you only need to lose/get unlucky once and you are out. What I'm trying to say is you play the cards more than the player (not all the time) so your mind set is regimental.

Playing live is much more to do with how you feel, confidence, in the zone. You play the player more; your cards become less important, your presence at the table becomes noticeable. It becomes more of a mind game, yes you still need the cards but with fewer hands you cannot always wait for them. 

I still play live like I'm playing on line which as done me ok so far but I want to move my game up to the next level. I believe I have a good all-round game and I feel confident whenever I sit down at a table and I don't believe my game needs looking at much (although we all learning all the time)

The long and the short is, to make the next move do you need to be lucky? Or would you use the words "feeling confident, running good, in the zone, variance, the long term"  

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on September 07, 2011, 10:29:01 AM

Great post Wayne. We need to meet up for a beer or 2 to discuss this one in more detail.

As you know I believe a good mind coach is the way forward for anyone struggling in these areas. I have one, and my attitude to the game is so much better now. I haven"t put in the volume to demonstrate improvement in my game but I KNOW that it"s there. In fact, part of the reason I haven"t been playing as much is because of my mind coach helping me realise other parts of my life that needed to be sorted first.

I could go on and on about this but if I did then it would seem like I was writing my own blog........must get back to that sometime.

If you, or any APAT"ers want to learn more about a "mind coach" or "life coach" (his preferred term) then PM me.


Going to the Alea on the 30th if you or anybody else is up for it?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on September 07, 2011, 10:44:33 AM

Interesting post Wayne, very thought provoking.

Confidence counts for a lot. I remember watching you play during the latter stages of the ME at DTD last week when it was down to about 16 runners. There was a raise in front of you and then you shoved... I know a little about the way you play and I remember thinking to myself, "He"s got a premium hand there." The confidence with which you shoved your chips over the line got most players to lay their hands down - even though I"d greatly overestimated the size of your pocket pair  ;)

Assuming that we always play well, the only thing better than confidence is running well - that and minimising distractions on and off the felt.


This is what got me thinking, to get as far as I did I got lucky getting my cards in bad 3 times but came out smiling. But knowing this, was my mind set on the game for the later stages or was I thinking "I'm lucky to be here" and my mind was not on the game or I'm just over thinking things.

We had allot of respect for each other so I knew he was only calling with a premium hand. My cards did not matter. I only showed because he made the same move 2 hands earlier and showed so out of respect I did the same.        
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: ian.ski309 on September 07, 2011, 10:58:42 AM


But knowing this, was my mind set on the game for the later stages or was I thinking "I'm lucky to be here" and my mind was not on the game or I'm just over thinking things.


I"m not sure what you mean here Wayne, but I"m pretty sure you"re over analysing ;) I only mentioned that hand because something you haven"t touched on so far is "table image". I will often adjust or adapt my game when I"m in a hand with a particular opponent, depending on what I already know about them. Sometimes this knowledge can stretch back years, sometimes it"s only what I"ve read about them but in most cases it"s what I"ve observed during the previous half an hour. I"m pretty sure that had I been in that hand I would have been folding 95% of hands to your shove  :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 28, 2011, 18:57:13 PM
Only mugs gamble "I am a mug"
There is only one winner "I am a loser"
Only idiots gamble "I am an idiot"
You don't see a poor bookie "I am broke"

From this day on I will never have a bet on the horses, football, cricket, golf etc. If you ever see me at a roulette table or sat at a blackjack table, you have my permission to kick me in the family jewels. If you hear me talking about having a bet, hit me around the face with a wet fish.

I don't include poker in this, as why should I stop at something I win at (sometimes)

Plus a project on Rugby League which I will be doing in February (I may blog about this)

I reserve the right to change any of the above at any time. ;)          
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on November 28, 2011, 19:41:07 PM

Only mugs gamble "I am a mug"
There is only one winner "I am a loser"
Only idiots gamble "I am an idiot"
You don't see a poor bookie "I am broke"

From this day on I will never have a bet on the horses, football, cricket, golf etc. If you ever see me at a roulette table or sat at a blackjack table, you have my permission to kick me in the family jewels. If you hear me talking about having a bet, hit me around the face with a wet fish.

I don't include poker in this, as why should I stop at something I win at (sometimes)

Plus a project on Rugby League which I will be doing in February (I may blog about this)

I reserve the right to change any of the above at any time. ;)          



There is so much more to be told here.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: AMRN on November 28, 2011, 19:44:12 PM
Wayne - not forgotten the trophy, and will take it to Manchester on Saturday. Are you going to be there? If not, let me know who to leave it with :)

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 29, 2011, 16:56:24 PM


Only mugs gamble "I am a mug"
There is only one winner "I am a loser"
Only idiots gamble "I am an idiot"
You don't see a poor bookie "I am broke"

From this day on I will never have a bet on the horses, football, cricket, golf etc. If you ever see me at a roulette table or sat at a blackjack table, you have my permission to kick me in the family jewels. If you hear me talking about having a bet, hit me around the face with a wet fish.

I don't include poker in this, as why should I stop at something I win at (sometimes)

Plus a project on Rugby League which I will be doing in February (I may blog about this)

I reserve the right to change any of the above at any time. ;)          



There is so much more to be told here.


No story Stuart, just fed up of being a mug punter

Having 2 months of no gambling
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 29, 2011, 16:57:48 PM

Wayne - not forgotten the trophy, and will take it to Manchester on Saturday. Are you going to be there? If not, let me know who to leave it with :)




As you know I'm not going, just waiting to see if Stuart is. I will let you know  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Santino67 on November 29, 2011, 18:52:41 PM

Only mugs gamble "I am a mug"
There is only one winner "I am a loser"
Only idiots gamble "I am an idiot"
You don't see a poor bookie "I am broke"

From this day on I will never have a bet on the horses, football, cricket, golf etc. If you ever see me at a roulette table or sat at a blackjack table, you have my permission to kick me in the family jewels. If you hear me talking about having a bet, hit me around the face with a wet fish.

I don't include poker in this, as why should I stop at something I win at (sometimes)

Plus a project on Rugby League which I will be doing in February (I may blog about this)

I reserve the right to change any of the above at any time. ;)          



Think it applies to most of us that we"re mug punters, even those who have in depth insider knowledge of any 1 sport will probably gamble on other things. Glad you"ve taken this step if it"s a downward spiral Wayne, it takes guts to come out and actually say it.

Glad I"m not one for loitering at the roulette and stuff when I"m not playing but I do still put on a weekly football coupon and a very occasional horse.

Good to see you"re exception will be playing poker - you know that 1 makes sense, shame though you"re not going to Manchester  :(
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on December 05, 2011, 14:22:29 PM
One week gone and only fell off the wagon 3 times  :( (must try harder)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on December 05, 2011, 15:59:02 PM

One week gone and only fell off the wagon 3 times  :( (must try harder)


Quote

If you hear me talking about having a bet, hit me around the face with a wet fish.


I think this qualifies.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: ian.ski309 on December 05, 2011, 21:21:36 PM


One week gone and only fell off the wagon 3 times  :( (must try harder)


Quote

If you hear me talking about having a bet, hit me around the face with a wet fish.


I think this qualifies.


Would you prefer haddock or cod Wayne ? Or if you were really bad... the frozen trout !  :o
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on December 06, 2011, 06:39:19 AM



One week gone and only fell off the wagon 3 times  :( (must try harder)


Quote

If you hear me talking about having a bet, hit me around the face with a wet fish.


I think this qualifies.


Would you prefer haddock or cod Wayne ? Or if you were really bad... the frozen trout !  :o


Lets start with a Paedocypris fish and work my way up
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on December 12, 2011, 15:56:18 PM
That's 1 more week gone but I have failed again. The good news is that I have not had a bet on the horses; the bad news is I cannot keep away from the football.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on December 12, 2011, 16:52:37 PM
have we moved up to a Corydoras now?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: ian.ski309 on December 12, 2011, 20:16:53 PM

have we moved up to a Corydoras now?


A stickleback !   ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Santino67 on December 13, 2011, 15:08:08 PM


have we moved up to a Corydoras now?


A stickleback !   ;)


Gasterosteus aculeatus   :P
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on December 13, 2011, 15:55:19 PM
Google is great  :D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 18, 2012, 13:07:37 PM
    A few years ago a friend of mine asked me about my thoughts on a game of rugby league, knowing that I"m a gambler. Unfortunately I know nothing about rugby league so told him to back the team which was in the highest position in the league.  A few days later I asked him how he got on with his bet, "brilliant" he said "I won". The next week came the same question "who should I bet on" so I gave him the same answer "whoever is in the higher position". This went on for about 2 months with him winning about 90% of his bets, then I said "how much have you won" expecting him to say something like £300, he said "£12". After I stopped laughing I asked him how much he was betting on any one game. "£5 a game". Now this guy as not got a clue on betting so I looked into the bets he was having, it turned out that he was having £5 bets on 1/10 shots. like I said earlier I did not know much about rugby league but I do know about gambling. So when he wanted to put a bet on a game I would do it for him. instead of putting it on the win I started to put it on the handicap which is normally odds of 10/11. As time went by I started to notice that the teams which were the favoured to win i.e. the team with minus points more than not won bigger than the points margin . So last year we started a joint venture were he told me the teams he thought was good value and I did the gambling bit. We was doing great up until the end of the season when we blow most off it away trying to make a good season into a great season but got greedy but still finished up. The trouble is I did not keep any records so don"t know if we got lucky on some bets or if my theory worked . So his year I will be keeping a record which I will share with you on the sports section.

   Some of you will know that I stopped  gambling (which I have) but this is the exception. Gambling with someone else"s money makes you concentrate, plus it"s not me making the selections so you could say that I"m investing in him. Last year we made a 250% profit which was ok but at one point we were 700% up until the gambling side off me reheard it"s ugly head and told me to go for it, I won"t be making the same mistake this year (if we get that far).                
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Des on January 18, 2012, 15:06:32 PM
Good luck with this Wayne.  Looking forward to seeing how you progress.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 24, 2012, 10:37:23 AM
Went to dinner last night with Jackie Charlton, Nobby Stiles, Gordon Banks, Ray Wilson and George Cohen along with about another 200 people.

Cannot remember the last time I went out on a school night but when it's paid for by the company it would be impolite for me to say no.

The compere asked them questions about 66 and what they do now. Nobby, Gordon and Ray were great with their story telling, George never spoke and Jackie didn't even know where he was.

A discussion broke out on the table about how sad it is that they have to do this to pay the bills when they should be enjoying life, not trolling up and down the M1. And if we win the next world cup, would the players in 40 years time be doing the same thing.    
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on January 24, 2012, 12:04:31 PM
I have heard Jackie speak at a sportsmans dinner and he was great, shame if he is now too ill to contribute.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 24, 2012, 22:08:54 PM

I have heard Jackie speak at a sportsmans dinner and he was great, shame if he is now too ill to contribute.


It was sad to see, he would start a story, stop half way through and say "I forgot what I was saying, what was the question" and not finish he story, at first we thought it was part of the speech but he continued like this all night.  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Swinebag on January 24, 2012, 22:31:36 PM

I have heard Jackie speak at a sportsmans dinner and he was great, shame if he is now too ill to contribute.


me too - was great value
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 29, 2012, 22:09:10 PM
Played some Sunday poker tonight which I have not done since the league finished.

$22 qualifier on PS for the $700 ME in the TCOOP
$5 MTT
And a freebie on Gentling for 2 seats to the GPS


Finished 229 out of 7400 (ish) 212 got seats
In the $5, had a minimum cash, after getting rived twice in a row
And in the Genting freebie finished 1st

Not been playing too well for a few months now but after tonight"s games, I"m feeling allot more confident. Although I won a seat to the GPS it was the PS game wear I played the best, just got unlucky at the wrong time.

Just need to sort out some digs now so any help would be appreciated      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 01, 2012, 13:26:39 PM
Won a seat to the Genting tour but instead of going to Birmingham this weekend I decided I would go to the Edinburgh leg. Take Mrs P make a weekend off it when I bust out on day 1, until I looked into the hotels. For 3-4 star hotel on that weekend, is on average £500 for two nights. So I'm keeping it until the Sheffield leg which is not until September, gives me something to look forward to  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on February 02, 2012, 09:04:35 AM

Won a seat to the Genting tour but instead of going to Birmingham this weekend I decided I would go to the Edinburgh leg. Take Mrs P make a weekend off it when I bust out on day 1, until I looked into the hotels. For 3-4 star hotel on that weekend, is on average £500 for two nights. So I'm keeping it until the Sheffield leg which is not until September, gives me something to look forward to  


When is the Edinburgh leg?

I am trying (well sort of!) to qualify for one of these this year, if I do then I have plenty of places we could stay nearby for free.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 02, 2012, 11:33:58 AM


Won a seat to the Genting tour but instead of going to Birmingham this weekend I decided I would go to the Edinburgh leg. Take Mrs P make a weekend off it when I bust out on day 1, until I looked into the hotels. For 3-4 star hotel on that weekend, is on average £500 for two nights. So I'm keeping it until the Sheffield leg which is not until September, gives me something to look forward to  


When is the Edinburgh leg?

I am trying (well sort of!) to qualify for one of these this year, if I do then I have plenty of places we could stay nearby for free.


Starts on Wednesday the 30th of May with day 1 of the ME on the 31st and 1st June. It's a bank holiday that weekend plus the Queens, Diamond Jubilee

Was going to make it a long weekend with the Mrs (but that can be changed ;)) so I don't fancy sleeping in a car  :)

Let me know if/when you get a seat and we can talk about it  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 17, 2012, 11:53:39 AM
A couple of year's back they was a situation with APAT which got my gander up. I was going to post on the forum and let rip. A good friend of mine  ;) told me not to post, sleep on it and review the situation in the morning. I followed his advice and it probably saved me from getting a ban. I have followed this advice ever since.

The written word can be miss understood, to one person it means one thing to the next person it means another. I have fallen foul of this in both being miss understood and miss understanding a post.        
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on February 17, 2012, 12:00:17 PM

A couple of year's back they was a situation with APAT which got my gander up. I was going to post on the forum and let rip. A good friend of mine  ;) told me not to post, sleep on it and review the situation in the morning. I followed his advice and it probably saved me from getting a ban. I have followed this advice ever since.

The written word can be miss understood, to one person it means one thing to the next person it means another. I have fallen foul of this in both being miss understood and miss understanding a post.        



Very good advice Wayne.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on February 17, 2012, 12:09:50 PM

A couple of year's back they was a situation with APAT which got my gander up. I was going to post on the forum and let rip. A good friend of mine  ;) told me not to post, sleep on it and review the situation in the morning. I followed his advice and it probably saved me from getting a ban. I have followed this advice ever since.

The written word can be miss understood, to one person it means one thing to the next person it means another. I have fallen foul of this in both being miss understood and miss understanding a post.        



Blatant "I"ve got friends" brag IMO  ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 17, 2012, 12:12:42 PM


A couple of year's back they was a situation with APAT which got my gander up. I was going to post on the forum and let rip. A good friend of mine  ;) told me not to post, sleep on it and review the situation in the morning. I followed his advice and it probably saved me from getting a ban. I have followed this advice ever since.

The written word can be miss understood, to one person it means one thing to the next person it means another. I have fallen foul of this in both being miss understood and miss understanding a post.        



Very good advice Wayne.




Thanks but it"s not my advice but someone with a Scotish flag^^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 21, 2012, 08:48:08 AM
When is a fence not a fence?

When some s**t in a van runs into it taking out four panels and posts then drives off and nobody in the street sees it >:(

Cost to van zero
Cost to me £250 and a day off work
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on February 21, 2012, 10:02:52 AM
"Day off work" ............every cloud  ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: ian.ski309 on February 21, 2012, 10:48:39 AM
"Day off work" ............every cloud  ;)


Wayne will obviously take offence to that !  :D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 21, 2012, 12:06:20 PM

"Day off work" ............every cloud  ;)


Wayne will obviously take offence to that !  :D


My sides are hurting
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on February 21, 2012, 18:37:41 PM

When is a fence not a fence?

When some s**t in a van runs into it taking out four panels and posts then drives off and nobody in the street sees it >:(

Cost to van zero
Cost to me £250 and a day off work



house insurance?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 21, 2012, 20:12:47 PM


When is a fence not a fence?

When some s**t in a van runs into it taking out four panels and posts then drives off and nobody in the street sees it >:(

Cost to van zero
Cost to me £250 and a day off work



house insurance?


You would think so, but I am not covered. If it was a plane then I could claim.  :-\
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on March 03, 2012, 13:02:03 PM
Catch up

It"s been a while since I have posted on here so thought I would give you catch up.

Firstly I have taken over the captaincy of the Yorkshire & Humberside poker club which is a strange title as Humberside is in Yorkshire It"s called East Yorkshire. At first I was up for this, new league, new regions start of a new season. But when the names started to come in I noticed that allot of the regular Leeds players were playing for other regions and with only a couple of players coming from Sheffield, the team looked like it was going to be on the small side. However after a few weeks we have allot of new players and some of the old players saying they will play this season. After talking to some of the new players and finding out what ability they have I am now very confident of a good season.

I played my first live game of the year at Gala, not much to report, never got going. Lasted  about 6 levels biggest starting hand all night JJ ran into QQ. The trip was a disappointment one for me, not because of the poker but because I had a go on the roulette. Some of you will know that I am having a break from gambling (apart from the Rugby League) I have not had a bet now since the middle of December until last Saturday. On the plus side I did win enough to pay for the poker and a few drinks but I"m still disappointed that I played in the first place. The flat season starts soon now that will be a test for me.

I have a Rugby League thread in the sports section which I"m doing with a friend (go and take a look) we have had a good start having 12 bets winning 9 but a long way to go.

Looking forward to the new F1 season on Sky, if they  put as much effort into it has they do with the football then the F1 channel will never be off. 

Back to poker, It"s been a very quite start to the year. The only online poker I have been playing is in a league on a Tuesday, winner goes to Vegas, the next 40 go into a playoff for another trip to Vegas, I"m in 42nd place as we speak with 5 games left. Bubbled the points 3 times, twice when in the top 10  and tried to put pressure on the rest, to run into premium hands when I could have just folded into the points.

Cannot wait for Coventry, liking the new festival weekend structure although I will only be playing the ME and maybe the 8.30 game if knockout. Stopping at De Vere on the Saturday but cannot book in till 8.00pm as Coventry have a home game and I have a room that overlooks the pitch.      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 24, 2012, 18:54:41 PM
Forgive me farther but I have Sinned.

What is it my child, what brings you to me in this state.

It all started 7 years ago when I saw her on the telly, it was love at first sight. I needed to find out more about her so I searched her out on the interweb. Once I had found her I needed to understand her so I kept watching her on telly and read a book about her until I was ready to pluck up the courage to contact her. After some foreplay I decided it was time to get to know her a little bit better so gave her my credit card which she gladly tuck off me.

She slowly helped me with what to do, what goes where and why. After a rocky start to our relationship it began to blossom, the more I paid her attention the more pleasure she gave me. I started to get obsessive about her, I need to see her every day and at the weekend I would spend all day with her, if I missed a day I would be thinking of her.

Our relationship was good at first, I would study her, learn how she ticked, what made her happy and she would repay me with gifts of money. It was time to meet her face to face so we arranged a place and time. As soon as I walked in I could smell her, to feel the softness of her felt and to hear the noise she made as I played with her chips.

We had our ups and downs like any couple but we would make up (The best thing about falling out is the making up). Then one year she turned her back on me, told me she never wanted to see me again. I didn"t understand why she would do this to me so I searched the web for answers were I found others who was also going through the same heartache as me. We would talk about her, share our experiences with each other, I learnt that she was always moving the goalposts and I had to move with her.

After a brief separation she loured me back with freerolls or money back offers. This time if we were having a rocky spell she would keep things fresh by showing me things that I could only think off like Omaha, 7 card stud, Turbo, Razz and one drunken Saturday night she even showed me her Badugi. But it could not last as again she turned on me. She would play with me giving me flush draws, straight draws, pot odds, she would give me hope that things would get better but as we got to 5th street she would pull it all away from me, leaving me alone and humiliated. Things had got that bad that I turned to the dark side "Don"t tell me you you you played" yes I"m ashamed to say that I played Bingo. "Dear child I don"t know what to say to you, you need professional help"

Is it the 7 year itch? What do I need to do to get my love back for her. COULD THIS BE DIVORCE?    
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 14, 2012, 08:49:26 AM
At the beginning of the season, in the suggestion posts for season 6. It was suggested of having a membership fee which was widely supported but was never implemented due to the fact it may drive people away instead of attracting new members.

Today I have become a Staked Licensed Player for two reasons. Number 1 to get staked, although I don't think I will be using it much as who will stake me? When you have the likes of George2loose and Swinebag22 to name but 2. But I will have a go; you never know someone may take pity on me. Number 2 is that I see this as a way of paying a Voluntary fee to APAT. As far as I'm aware, APAT is still a non profit organization so any monies will go back into running APAT so I have no quorums in paying £10 or 1% of any winnings.          
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2012, 10:51:38 AM

At the beginning of the season, in the suggestion posts for season 6. It was suggested of having a membership fee which was widely supported but was never implemented due to the fact it may drive people away instead of attracting new members.

Today I have become a Staked Licensed Player for two reasons. Number 1 to get staked, although I don’t think I will be using it much as who will stake me? When you have the likes of George2loose and Swinebag22 to name but 2. But I will have a go; you never know someone may take pity on me. Number 2 is that I see this as a way of paying a Voluntary fee to APAT. As far as I’m aware, APAT is still a non profit organization so any monies will go back into running APAT so I have no quorums in paying £10 or 1% of any winnings.          



I like it...that"s a good way to look at it.

On the other hand, and I"m almost certainly wrong, I think the early adopters of APAT actually did pay a small fee in the beginning...maybe £10? Dunno, just something I have in the dark recess of what I like to refer to as...as...as...oh, yeah, my memory.

Oh...and it"s qualms. :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 14, 2012, 10:54:03 AM
Get yourself a proposal up for this weekends Pokerstars half price stuff and you may just be surprised  ;D
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on June 14, 2012, 11:13:03 AM


At the beginning of the season, in the suggestion posts for season 6. It was suggested of having a membership fee which was widely supported but was never implemented due to the fact it may drive people away instead of attracting new members.

Today I have become a Staked Licensed Player for two reasons. Number 1 to get staked, although I don't think I will be using it much as who will stake me? When you have the likes of George2loose and Swinebag22 to name but 2. But I will have a go; you never know someone may take pity on me. Number 2 is that I see this as a way of paying a Voluntary fee to APAT. As far as I'm aware, APAT is still a non profit organization so any monies will go back into running APAT so I have no quorums in paying £10 or 1% of any winnings.          



I like it...that"s a good way to look at it.

On the other hand, and I"m almost certainly wrong, I think the early adopters of APAT actually did pay a small fee in the beginning...maybe £10? Dunno, just something I have in the dark recess of what I like to refer to as...as...as...oh, yeah, my memory.

Oh...and it"s qualms. :)


Yes, we paid £5

Thanks for pointing that out, See OP  :)

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Des on June 14, 2012, 12:16:49 PM



At the beginning of the season, in the suggestion posts for season 6. It was suggested of having a membership fee which was widely supported but was never implemented due to the fact it may drive people away instead of attracting new members.

Today I have become a Staked Licensed Player for two reasons. Number 1 to get staked, although I don't think I will be using it much as who will stake me? When you have the likes of George2loose and Swinebag22 to name but 2. But I will have a go; you never know someone may take pity on me. Number 2 is that I see this as a way of paying a Voluntary fee to APAT. As far as I'm aware, APAT is still a non profit organization so any monies will go back into running APAT so I have no quorums in paying £10 or 1% of any winnings.          



I like it...that"s a good way to look at it.

On the other hand, and I"m almost certainly wrong, I think the early adopters of APAT actually did pay a small fee in the beginning...maybe £10? Dunno, just something I have in the dark recess of what I like to refer to as...as...as...oh, yeah, my memory.

Oh...and it"s qualms. :)


Yes, we paid £5

Thanks for pointing that out, See OP  :)




lol, that"s one of the great comebacks. :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2012, 13:01:15 PM




At the beginning of the season, in the suggestion posts for season 6. It was suggested of having a membership fee which was widely supported but was never implemented due to the fact it may drive people away instead of attracting new members.

Today I have become a Staked Licensed Player for two reasons. Number 1 to get staked, although I don’t think I will be using it much as who will stake me? When you have the likes of George2loose and Swinebag22 to name but 2. But I will have a go; you never know someone may take pity on me. Number 2 is that I see this as a way of paying a Voluntary fee to APAT. As far as I’m aware, APAT is still a non profit organization so any monies will go back into running APAT so I have no quorums in paying £10 or 1% of any winnings.          



I like it...that"s a good way to look at it.

On the other hand, and I"m almost certainly wrong, I think the early adopters of APAT actually did pay a small fee in the beginning...maybe £10? Dunno, just something I have in the dark recess of what I like to refer to as...as...as...oh, yeah, my memory.

Oh...and it"s qualms. :)


Yes, we paid £5

Thanks for pointing that out, See OP  :)




lol, that"s one of the great comebacks. :)


Nah...he"s just making excuses.

That"s not a spelling mistake...it"s a whole different word.

Dyslexia...my asz! :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on August 21, 2012, 19:21:34 PM
Was not going to play this weekend due to a big day and night out on the Saturday (York races)  but now with it being so close I just cannot resist so just bought in via DTD on-line shop. I may be late and I may be hung-over so if you see me with sunglasses it"s not because I"m a hot shot poker player, I"m just hiding my bloodshot eyes.    
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: SirPercival on August 21, 2012, 19:24:18 PM

Was not going to play this weekend due to a big day and night out on the Saturday (York races)  but now with it being so close I just cannot resist so just bought in via DTD on-line shop. I may be late and I may be hung-over so if you see me with sunglasses it"s not because I"m a hot shot poker player, I"m just hiding my bloodshot eyes.    


You never play an hand for the first 3 hours anyway so just have some extra sleep.  ;)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on August 22, 2012, 06:36:52 AM


Was not going to play this weekend due to a big day and night out on the Saturday (York races)  but now with it being so close I just cannot resist so just bought in via DTD on-line shop. I may be late and I may be hung-over so if you see me with sunglasses it"s not because I"m a hot shot poker player, I"m just hiding my bloodshot eyes.    


You never play an hand for the first 3 hours anyway so just have some extra sleep.  ;)


You can drop me off on the way down to Coventry and then pick me up on the way back
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on August 31, 2012, 10:05:25 AM
What a great day on Sunday, just wished I could run a bit better when it mattered. Went to the races on Saturday which turned out to be a all day drinking session from 11am till sometime in the early hours (don"t remember what time I got to bed but I can remember the birds singing) The day was a good day with a 5/1 winner and a 14/1 winner which paid for the drink and also coved my entrance fee to the game on Sunday.

Woke up on Sunday with a thumping headache wondering where I was, finally got my bearings after a few pints of water and standing in the shower for 15 minutes trying to sober up, then started to head home from York when the phone goes "can I have a lift?" The day before I text Stuart and offered to drive to DTD and with him going deep in the 6 max plus driving to Coventry the day before, he was happy for the lift. I did not tell him a would have probably been over the limit if pulled. This was about 11.00 so went home first, change of clothes and plenty of coffee then picked Stuart up and head for DTD.

The game started well for me getting AA, KK, QQ twice, JJ and AK, AQ all within the first 3 levels so why did I end up with only 9000 chips? The only hand I can remember were some of the chips went is when I had an over pair to the board but the guy rived a straight and I paid him off apart from that I played straight forward poker but seem to lose chips. After that I started to grind, getting my stack up to 45k when Will sat on my left got bustard and a woman replaced him, this is when it all went wrong. The blinds was 600/1200 75 I called 1 raise and raised a further twice for her to re-raise all-in. By now I had been awake for about 15 hours after being asleep for 4 hours and was starting to feel fatigue. The next hand I get AQ made a raise to 3k she again moves all-in this time I made the call. She flips over 10 10, I hit the A but she hits the 10, no complaints.

By now Stuart had entered the £50 sat for the £500k so I went to have a quite sit down in my car the next thing I know an hour had passed and the phone worked me up with a text from Stuart saying he was out. I intended to go back into DTD to say my good-buys but was not feeling too good so just waited for Stuart then set off home. Good job he was with me, don't know if I would have made it back in one peace.

Probably my last APAT game until the worlds in March. May play the team game in January if I get selected (Paulie  ;)) but with it just being after Christmas I may find it difficult as the pennies are tight at the moment but let's wait and see.

I qualified for GPS back in March but waited until it came to Sheffield in November, been looking forward to this all year and will be the biggest game I have played in. I won it in a freeroll so I have nothing to lose and that's how I'm going to play it.

Manage to blag some VIP tickets to the Launch Party at Genting Club Sheffield, free food, free drink, hotel booked.  ;D

I am now on Twitter but only have one man and his dog following me and the dog had to be pushed into it. @Mr_nosey_p                      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 30, 2013, 11:43:12 AM
Luton Team Championships

The day started with me wondering if the game was still on after all the snow we had over Friday night. A few exchanged emails and PMs found that all was going ahead as planned, apparently all the snow fell on Yorkshire and the southern softies had none. A quick check with my team mates to make sure that they were still going and off I go.

Half way down the M1, I ran out of water for the window screen so a quick pit stop in the services and 5 minutes later I'm on my way. When I get to the hotel I noticed that some ******* had caught the corner of my car and put a nice dint and scratch, now if I was in my clapped out car it would have not bothered me but I was in the Mrs pride and joy. Nothing I can do about that now so put it to the back of my mind and will face the music when I get home.

After walking down 5 flights of stairs to the reception and then waiting in line for 15 minutes for my turn. The following conversation tuck place.

"Yes Sir"
"I have a room booked "
"What name"
"Parker"
He types for a minute on his computer
"Sorry sir, what name was it"
"Wayne Parker, I have booked for 1 night" and I showed him my booking number.
"Sorry sir but we have no room with that name "
He continues to type away.
"You have not got a room, but we still have some left, can I take your credit card"  
"No, I have already paid for it, here is my confirmation"

After about 15 minutes of this he finally gives me a room, by this time I was late getting to the casino so I just dumped my bag and then head off. I was supposed to meet some of my team mates in the bar at the hotel to give shirts out but now had to give them out at the casino which I don't think some of them liked.

The game started and before I knew it I was out, nothing of note happened just could not get in the game and spent the rest of the night railing my fellow team mates, but gradually they all fell one by one and none of us made it to day two.

After arriving back at my room at 2.30am I noticed my widow was open and with it being on a major road, the noise was loud even at that time. So I go to shut it only to find out that you can't its broken. So I spent the rest of the night/morning listening to the traffic.

I had put my name down to play Ping-Pong but after about 3 hours broken sleep the last thing that I wanted to do was play this but since I'm her and paid for it I may as well go along. This turn out to be a really good laugh even though I did not do very well (even Claire beat me) and it was a way to pass the time on, on a Sunday morning.

Since we had all gone out of the tournament I head off home to face the finger waging of the Mrs and how I will never borrow her car again (what I paid for by the way)

With all that happen to me over the weekend is insignificant when you hear what happened to John

It was good to meet new and old faces and has always no matter if I do good or bad, the APAT weekend are ones not to be missed (I just wish I could attend more of them)  

See you all at DTD      
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 17, 2013, 16:52:59 PM
It"s been 6 months since I last posted on hear
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Paulie_D on July 17, 2013, 17:01:51 PM

It"s been 6 months since I last posted on hear


Still haven"t learned to spell in the interim though. :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on July 17, 2013, 17:21:17 PM


It"s been 6 months since I last posted on hear


Still haven"t learned to spell in the interim though. :)


Nope, spelling is overrated  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Paulie_D on July 17, 2013, 18:03:34 PM
Don bee redikulos, speeling iz vytally importan in der modurn wurld.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 10, 2014, 16:49:33 PM
It"s been another 6 months since I last posted on this thread  :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Paulie_D on January 10, 2014, 17:14:47 PM

It"s been another 6 months since I last posted on this thread  :)


...and nothing else has happened to you in the interim.

Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on October 26, 2016, 14:23:17 PM
Not blogged for over two years and not blogging today, but will try in the future  :)
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: duke3016 on October 26, 2016, 14:42:24 PM

Not blogged for over two years and not blogging today, but will try in the future  :)


Good. Look forward to it.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 06, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
Played at the local casino in Leeds yesterday, it"s a £50 comp with a good structure and clock. Now I haven"t played much this year so don"t know what the current trends are (raise 2 bigs or 3 bigs etc). Now I may be a nit but help me understand this. Starting with 25K chips first level 50/100, first raise 700 followed by 4 callers, eventually gets to shown down with 2 in the pot one shows K4 the other shows 97 for a 15K pot (ish) very first hand. This could have been a one of trying to be the table captain but no this goes on throughout the first level, seems that the trend in Leeds is to bet anything from 7 to 10 big blinds followed by 4 or 5 callers. It"s not a re-buy comp but you can re-enter once. Into level 2 75/150 and the mayhem just keeps on going still betting 7/8 bigs and getting calls. Level 3 and 4 just the same not with big hands (AA v KK ect) but with A7, K9, 64 (because they are suited) .  Before anyone says it, this should be good for a player like me just to wait and then play my big hands but if the big hands never come you have to make a stand at some point.

Level 4 I decided to join in (I could have just keep on folding but no guarantee that I would get a hand). In the small blind J9, as norm someone raises, 3 or 4 callers so with those odds I call, J high board so I put out a pot sized bet. Gets 1 caller the only other player on the table that seems to be playing a ABC game (He asked what I had behind). K on the turn, I should have continued but made a mistake and checked, so did he. Rag on the river, I have no idea where I"m at. Is 2nd pair good? If I had bet the turn I think I would have known wear I was. So I check, he puts out a sizable bet, which was 3/4 of my stack. So the decision I had did he hit the K or hit a set or did he pick up that I was a nit and missed the K so was putting me to the test. I folded, if had been any of the other lose players I would have called, but was the only person that when it went to a show down, was playing premium hands. A few more hands came and went with me calling and folding (not one of my best games). Big blind call again with K 10, 3 spades came down (I had the K spades). He bets, I just have enough to make him lay down so I ship it, he ponders for a while the makes the call with 2 pair. Not with say Ak or KQ or JQ no no no, but he was playing 9 4. He called a bet (pre flop) with 9 4 and hit two pair. No spade on the turn or river and I"m out.

What I learnt from this game is don"t play a way that you are not comfortable with. I knew I was making mistakes but still made them.                                     
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: pokerpops on November 06, 2016, 18:27:22 PM

Played at the local casino in Leeds yesterday, it"s a £50 comp with a good structure and clock. Now I haven"t played much this year so don"t know what the current trends are (raise 2 bigs or 3 bigs etc). Now I may be a nit but help me understand this. Starting with 25K chips first level 50/100, first raise 700 followed by 4 callers, eventually gets to shown down with 2 in the pot one shows K4 the other shows 97 for a 15K pot (ish) very first hand. This could have been a one of trying to be the table captain but no this goes on throughout the first level, seems that the trend in Leeds is to bet anything from 7 to 10 big blinds followed by 4 or 5 callers. It"s not a re-buy comp but you can re-enter once. Into level 2 75/150 and the mayhem just keeps on going still betting 7/8 bigs and getting calls. Level 3 and 4 just the same not with big hands (AA v KK ect) but with A7, K9, 64 (because they are suited) .  Before anyone says it, this should be good for a player like me just to wait and then play my big hands but if the big hands never come you have to make a stand at some point.

Level 4 I decided to join in (I could have just keep on folding but no guarantee that I would get a hand). In the small blind J9, as norm someone raises, 3 or 4 callers so with those odds I call, J high board so I put out a pot sized bet. Gets 1 caller the only other player on the table that seems to be playing a ABC game (He asked what I had behind). K on the turn, I should have continued but made a mistake and checked, so did he. Rag on the river, I have no idea where I"m at. Is 2nd pair good? If I had bet the turn I think I would have known wear I was. So I check, he puts out a sizable bet, which was 3/4 of my stack. So the decision I had did he hit the K or hit a set or did he pick up that I was a nit and missed the K so was putting me to the test. I folded, if had been any of the other lose players I would have called, but was the only person that when it went to a show down, was playing premium hands. A few more hands came and went with me calling and folding (not one of my best games). Big blind call again with K 10, 3 spades came down (I had the K spades). He bets, I just have enough to make him lay down so I ship it, he ponders for a while the makes the call with 2 pair. Not with say Ak or KQ or JQ no no no, but he was playing 9 4. He called a bet (pre flop) with 9 4 and hit two pair. No spade on the turn or river and I"m out.

What I learnt from this game is don"t play a way that you are not comfortable with. I knew I was making mistakes but still made them.                                     



It"s very much the way it is these days.
My take is here
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php/topic,10564.msg251496.html#msg251496


Cliffs
Re-entry is one culprit, £50 buy in and a short clock is another IMHO
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 06, 2016, 20:52:34 PM
If I keep on playing this game I"m going to have to change my mind set and ether, if you can"t beat them join them or don"t play from the start and buy in at the end of late registration when things settle down
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 09, 2016, 10:37:20 AM
It"s Razz night
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: IrishTom on November 09, 2016, 14:36:52 PM

If I keep on playing this game I"m going to have to change my mind set and ether, if you can"t beat them join them or don"t play from the start and buy in at the end of late registration when things settle down


Sitting through games like this I suspect is extremely confusing and frustrating if you don"t play so much... I"d be inclinded to continue with what I know is right, but play more, and should hopefully come good in the long run.... gl mate
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Erimus on November 09, 2016, 15:02:36 PM
I would imagine the games in Leeds play similar to the ones in Stockton, play tight aggressive and fairly ABC it still works in the long term, I sometimes pop down with the intention of getting lairy but I can"t do it because it"s usually a losing strategy imo. Last night for instance played literally 5 hands before the first break then after the break loosened up and I still
Only play AK and Aces so get the respect, if that doesn"t work just win your all ins, shove/fold poker it"s an easy game then no thinking required, Gl, Gl.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: pokerpops on November 09, 2016, 17:10:55 PM

I would imagine the games in Leeds play similar to the ones in Stockton, play tight aggressive and fairly ABC it still works in the long term, I sometimes pop down with the intention of getting lairy but I can"t do it because it"s usually a losing strategy imo. Last night for instance played literally 5 hands before the first break then after the break loosened up and I still
Only play AK and Aces so get the respect, if that doesn"t work just win your all ins, shove/fold poker it"s an easy game then no thinking required, Gl, Gl.


Brian has the answer :)
Mind you, if he only plays AK and KK+ then he is outrunning the statistical likelihood of being dealt those hands...
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 10, 2016, 10:15:41 AM
I don"t play a great deal live, and it"s been a few years since I last went to DTD, but would get the same play in a $50 comp there?

If I was to play in a 25/25 game would the standed be diffrent?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on November 10, 2016, 10:32:14 AM
Played 2 games this week in the APAT Allstars, 6 max on Monday top 3 paid I came 4th. Razz last night,top 3 got paid I came 5th. It"s a shame the points are on money won and not the top 10.

Lost a flip in the 6 max when holiding AK v 44, I hit the A but a 4 also came.

When I played regular online, my go to game when i got board of holdem was Razz so was looking forward to last nights game. Lost most of my chips when betting a 6 low for them to have the nuts but realy enjoyed it.

Don"t think I will be playing anymore in the present league but will try to play from the first game in the next league
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: pokerpops on November 10, 2016, 10:57:49 AM

I don"t play a great deal live, and it"s been a few years since I last went to DTD, but would get the same play in a $50 comp there?

If I was to play in a 25/25 game would the standed be diffrent?


I don"t go to DTD these days, but I dare say it"s pretty similar, and probably much the same in the early stages of the bigger games given the volume of satellite winners.

tbh, I"m not sure if we want it to be too different. The fundamental issues, IMO, are that we "make hands, get paid" and that we remember the adage that you can"t rep a hand against someone who isn"t thinking about what you might have.


25/25? Not sure, I mean, there are some good players to be found in those fields, but who wants to spend their life battling with Simon Deadman and Andy Hulme for every pot?
I"m playing my first GPS Mini next week, I"ll let you know how it goes.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Erimus on November 11, 2016, 16:06:03 PM
IMO only 25/25 play similar to normal comps, found th £500 much harder to get chips, only vey little limping seen in 2 days, the only guy who limped was constantly 3/4 bet and he was out fairly quick.  Ack to the sights of NYC, just had a small break in being a tourist.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: pokerpops on November 11, 2016, 18:35:24 PM

IMO only 25/25 play similar to normal comps, found th £500 much harder to get chips, only vey little limping seen in 2 days, the only guy who limped was constantly 3/4 bet and he was out fairly quick.  Ack to the sights of NYC, just had a small break in being a tourist.


Back in the days when I played £1000 buy in tournaments (when I could win seats in satellites) I played the UKIPT 6-max.

Not only was there no limping, there wasn"t a lot of calling. Fun day out that one.
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 19, 2017, 18:42:51 PM
The first thing I look for when the new season is announced is where and when is the Team Champs, to my delight it was in Blackpool just over an hour 1/2 drive for most of the Yorkshire team. To me this tournament is one if not the best event of the whole calendar. Its the only time I let myself have a drink and poker becomes more of something to do rather then the main reason. The only thing we have to do now is get our team in. Since the start of the online team games Yorkshire Poker Club have always had team(s) entered in them right back to when it was a regional league. We have always supported APAT whenever we could so was surprised when unfortunately we did not get a place. But when you look further into it its not so much of a surprise. Firstly our record is appalling, I think finishing last in 2 of the last 3 years and the other year was not much better, and with the event being over subscribed it was just our turn to miss out.

What makes it more depressing is when you see all the teams being announced and all the familiar names who you would have a good drink and chat with. Now my first thought was since my own team (YPC) did not get a place I could always try and get in the APAT team however the team was picked before the teams were announced so not giving anyone else the opportunity to play for APAT.

So my next thought was to put a post up saying that I was available if needed, however while all this is going through my mind the Mrs had gone and booked a weekend away on the same weekend  :(

So this year I wont be at the Team Championships but if APAT can have it in Leeds or Sheffield next year to make up for YPC not being there this year, I would be grateful. (I think the chances are nil  :D)  
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 19, 2017, 18:48:20 PM
Have just looked at the beginning of this blog and allot of my posts have vanished, any ideas????
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 19, 2017, 18:53:22 PM

Have just looked at the beginning of this blog and allot of my posts have vanished, any ideas????


Censored to protect the innocent ;)

On a serious note, when the forum was migrated to a new version, we sort of lost some posts.  They are retrievable if requested so they will be visible again.  Just drop Matt a message and he"ll add them to the list of ones to do.

Sorry about that Wayne.  Technology hey ?
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on January 19, 2017, 19:06:12 PM


Have just looked at the beginning of this blog and allot of my posts have vanished, any ideas????


Censored to protect the innocent ;)

On a serious note, when the forum was migrated to a new version, we sort of lost some posts.  They are retrievable if requested so they will be visible again.  Just drop Matt a message and he"ll add them to the list of ones to do.

Sorry about that Wayne.  Technology hey ?


ok Leigh, thanks for letting me know, it would be good to get them back
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on February 26, 2017, 13:12:58 PM
With all this talk about the Team Championships (I wont be there) I thought I would cheer myself up by planning my schedule for the WCOAP. Since it moved to Stratford I have not played in it so looking forward to playing it. The one game I cannot wait to play is Razz, never played it live so this will be my highlight of the week, what day is it on O wait it's not on the schedule. With the disappointment of the Razz I look to see what else takes my fancy. Horse is the next on my list Wednesday at 2.00 means I will need to take a day off work so I put my request in and it gets rejected due to other staff being off. So on to plan C the main event, Day C is my choice but then the Mrs says I cannot play that day due to other commitments. I also cannot play on the first Saturday so that leaves me with the Sundays,   thankfully they is a day 1 on the first Sunday. So the plan is play the main event (Day 1A) then hopefully day 2 and 3 but if I do not make day 2 then I will play the Pot Limit Omaha High/Low.

Good luck to anyone playing in Blackpool, I'm going to miss it, it's the best tournament of the season and it's going to be the first time I"ve missed it for 6 years. YPC was not lucky enough to get in this year.   
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on April 29, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
WCOAP 2017 (Part One)

As already said in previous posts, I was looking forward to playing the WCOAP now it was back up north but due to work and other commitments I was only able to play over the Bank Holiday weekend. The plan was to play the main on the Saturday then if/when out play the Hi/Lo on the Sunday then if/when out jump into the cash game.

In the run up to the WCOAP I played a 25p sat which turned in to a £5 then a £30 and the a £110 seat. I also won a £55 seat with APAT last year which meant that I was freerolling the weekend.

Since it only cost me 25p, the plan was to play the main very loose and build a big stake (which we all try to do) or bust out so I could play the Hi/Low on the Sunday.

The main started and the plan was going well, not getting a stake but on the way to busting. In the first 2 levels I was in a lot of pots but all loosing ones and before I knew it I was down to 14K (20k starting). But more importantly I was playing out of my comfort zone and I was not enjoying it. So I could continue with this strategy which would probable lead to me to busting before the first break or revert to my normal game.

Back in my comfort zone I started to recover very slowly (always behind the average) but feeling like I was in control. I had been in the same seat and with some goings a comings of people, the table settled down and some good banter started to flow. By early evening my chips was still behind the average but I was not in the danger zone when a incident happened.

I had to take a comfort break and on returning to my seat the dealer was still dealing the cards but my first card had already been dealt. Upon sitting down the 1st position player made it 3k and said to me “you are out of this hand” I had not looked yet at my cards, and asked the deal to which he said “you are ok to play as I was still dealing when you sat down” I looked at my cards AQ then went on to call. The other guy then kicked off about this, (everyone else folded). Before the flop he kept on saying this is wrong and I should not be in the hand. The flop came down Ace rag rag, before he made any action I said “to keep things friendly if he checked it down so will I” He did not accept this and fired another 3k. With this I put him on a Ace so unless he had a King I was confident that I was a head. But I still said to him I will check it down if he wanted to, and called his 3k. He then went it to over drive about how I should not be in the hand. Turn was check check, river was a Q now I knew I was miles ahead but he checked and true to my word I checked. He showed A J, when I turned over the A Q he went on and on about how I should not be in the hand and kept on at the dealer that he was wrong. The dealer ask for the floor to confirm the ruling, the TD backed up the dealer by saying I was right to continue with the hand.

The rest of the table could not believe that I checked it down and that I could easily had taken this guy out (which would have boosted my chips considerably) but in the APAT spirit thought that checking it down was the right thing to do. The guy soon quieten down when he got his chips back from another player.

The night continued and I'm still behind the average but had a good read on the table and my chips was on the up, the chat was flowing and I was really enjoying myself. In particular with a  young guy in seat one (I'm in seat 4) who had been up and down in chips but had managed to forage ahead and was the table leader. When the dreaded call comes “Next big blind please follow me” which was me, so after 10 levels I had to move table for the last 2 levels of the day.

I didn't know anyone on the new table but after a few hands it was plain to see that they all was trying to see the day out and make day 2. Very little flops was being seen it was either all fold or one raise then all fold. Right from the first hand of the day I was always behind the average but had enough to take through to day 2 with about 75k, however I saw this table as an opportunity to take down the blinds and get over 100k, well that was the plan only the rest of the table didn't see it that way and every time I made a play I got shoved on. As we entered the final 1/2 hour of the day me chips had dwindled down to 50K so it was time to twist or stick. Is 25 big blinds ok for day 2? That was the question I was asking myself, normally I would say yes but with the Hi/Lo the next day (which was a game I really wanted to play) I wasn't sure. 

I decided to fold my way to day 2 with the intention of playing fast to chip up or bust so I could play the Hi/Lo. The fly in the ointment was that the Hi/Lo started an hour before day 2 started (with a 2 hour late reg) which gave me just an hour of late reg or a possibility of multi-tabling but don't think that playing a Holdem and a Omaha Hi/Lo at the same time was a good idea.       
Title: Re: In the beginning
Post by: nosey-p on May 06, 2017, 09:20:21 AM
So we have made day 2 with 25 bigs, looking at the web site it's not actually in bad shape, yes theirs some big stacks but I'm in the mix. I decided to forget about the Hi/Lo and concentrate on the main.

I get to the casino to be told that the seat draw had been done and I was sat next to the chip leader who was Paul    Haycock (on my right) and JP Round to his right. I sore this as a positive, I need chips and there's plenty on my table. Before the game started I ran in to the young guy from day one, he was very hyper and looking forward to the day ahead. He had manage to chip up to 140k and was in the top 5. But then is excitement turned in to despair has he was told that he had been withdrawn from the game, the reason being that he had played in the Main 1B and with this not being a re-entry, he was disqualified. He was not a regular APAT'er in fact I think it was his first and said he did not know about not being a re-entry but how did the poker desk allow this to happen?  

The main starts and I settle down to play passive /aggressive, fold until i get aces then get a double up from Paul well that was the plan, only before I even get the seat warm the table broke. The new table was full of unknowns (apart from Linda) but continued with my plan. For the next 2/3 levels it was fold fold fold  since I was card dead. By now the bubble was in site but I would not get there with me chips now being about 12 bigs. Then came what I was waiting for AA and I get the double. I could have now just shut down and make the cash but instead I go on the attack picking up some small pots uncontested. We are down to about 35 with 27 getting paid, I have about 100k and the blinds are 3k/6k. The play starts to slow down as people start to see the money, so I start to be more loose unfortunately every time I play a hand some one has a better hand. This is an example, on the button with AQ so raise it, SB shoves, I had already decided that I was calling but the BB (who was table leader) also pushed, after some time I folded to see SB had JJ and BB had KK. If I had called the JJ I would have been out.

The bubble seem to take ages with all ins but no calls including myself, eventually the bubble burst and we are in the money but not in good shape down to 12 bigs again. New table and the first hand I get KK in first position, made 2.5 raise but no takers. The blinds are now 5k/10k I have 120k, on the button I look down to see A rag, with the SB having about 100k and the BB being table leader.  My thought process to this had is that the SB has just gone thought the blinds and therefore does not need to play the had unless having a big hand. The BB has loads of chips but will not be willing to put them at risk unless he as a big hand. I could have done this play with any 2 cards but having the ace helped so I push. SB thinks then calls BB folds. I was expecting to see a pocket pair or AK, AQ. He had A 10 which surprised me. Yes has it happened he was in good shape but for me it was a poor call. After this hand I had 2 bigs, a few hands later I was out (cannot remember the exit hand).

The positives of this game is this was my 3rd cash in 4 main events finishing 3rd, 10th and now 20th. Which I think shows that I have the game for the longer format but I'm always grinding short stakes, something I'm going to have to work on.

Even though I have been playing for over 10 years now I still class myself as a novice since I only play 3/4 or 5 live games a year, but looking back at the game a think I played at my top, tried to mix things up but when it was not working reverted to my normal play and grinded my way back into the game. Looking at the A rag hand I think I played it correctly, the A 10 was a loose call (in my opinion) and would make the same play again.

So that's another APAT season over with, o no it's not we have the online, now that's another story.................