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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2015, 15:11:34 PM »

organisors need to ask themselves WHY this event is always oversubscribed and it isnt because teams want to be seperated and play on different days or flights!!!


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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2015, 15:55:44 PM »
Team splitting not a good idea. The team element has always been a big part of teams I have participated in and it"s not really a team event if you only play with half of your team. Also if u played the second flight and the first 4 people had all busted the night before motivation would be different.
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2015, 17:26:56 PM »
would like all players from team playing at one time, although having day 1a and 1b would add an extra twist to it, with more teams playing swells the prize fund too
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2015, 17:57:54 PM »
Two days clearly isn"t popular, go for the bigger capacity.

If DTD can"t host, how about Star City or Genting Stoke, both central venues that have hosted 300 player tourneys in the past.
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2015, 18:34:11 PM »
Personally, I think to do the event justice, the buyin should be £50+£10 per person.  It amazes me that any venue is still prepared to run a two day deepstack event with just £5 per person juice.

To get to the capacities we are talking about, any venue in the UK will need to bring in dealers (which costs a bit more than their inhouse dealers).  I"d imagine it"s a hard sell when speaking to venues.

Sorry if that"s slightly off topic, and those are my own opinions, which may well differ from Des and Tom's views.

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2015, 19:11:21 PM »
If we have 3 days, can we not just run it as a 3 day comp? Change it to £60+£10 pp (so the casino gets the juice needed to make it viable) and have

Day 1 (7pm-1am no breaks)
Day 2 as norm
Day 3 as norm?
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2015, 19:11:31 PM »

Personally, I think to do the event justice, the buyin should be £50+£10 per person.  It amazes me that any venue is still prepared to run a two day deepstack event with just £5 per person juice.

To get to the capacities we are talking about, any venue in the UK will need to bring in dealers (which costs a bit more than their inhouse dealers).  I"d imagine it"s a hard sell when speaking to venues.

Sorry if that"s slightly off topic, and those are my own opinions, which may well differ from Des and Tom's views.


Unless it started with a few self dealt tables....
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2015, 20:29:38 PM »


Personally, I think to do the event justice, the buyin should be £50+£10 per person.  It amazes me that any venue is still prepared to run a two day deepstack event with just £5 per person juice.

To get to the capacities we are talking about, any venue in the UK will need to bring in dealers (which costs a bit more than their inhouse dealers).  I"d imagine it"s a hard sell when speaking to venues.

Sorry if that"s slightly off topic, and those are my own opinions, which may well differ from Des and Tom's views.


Unless it started with a few self dealt tables....


APAT wouldn"t run a main event with self dealt tables Kev, at least not by design.
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2015, 21:04:52 PM »



Personally, I think to do the event justice, the buyin should be £50+£10 per person.  It amazes me that any venue is still prepared to run a two day deepstack event with just £5 per person juice.

To get to the capacities we are talking about, any venue in the UK will need to bring in dealers (which costs a bit more than their inhouse dealers).  I"d imagine it"s a hard sell when speaking to venues.

Sorry if that"s slightly off topic, and those are my own opinions, which may well differ from Des and Tom's views.






Unless it started with a few self dealt tables....


APAT wouldn"t run a main event with self dealt tables Kev, at least not by design.


Im sure members would rather that then splitting the team event
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2015, 21:26:21 PM »
In response to Chipaccruals reply of charging extra juice to cover the venues " extra costs" . I would 100% guarantee that bar takings alone at this event would prove very profitable for the host venue!!!

Venues should be paying APAT a nice chunky fee to host this event

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2015, 21:36:16 PM »

If we have 3 days, can we not just run it as a 3 day comp? Change it to £60+£10 pp (so the casino gets the juice needed to make it viable) and have

Day 1 (7pm-1am no breaks)
Day 2 as norm
Day 3 as norm?
surely all players would need to get same game time, maybe whoever left from day 1a joins 1b at a later stage on saturday, maybe after dinner break or something
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2015, 21:43:46 PM »
Kudos to APAT for trying move forward and break new ground again........ love the idea of expanding this event to accommodate more teams....... BUT, please don"t split teams across sessions as proposed. I agree with all of the reasons posted already.

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2015, 21:56:09 PM »
I"m with Carl on this one.  If the objective is to involve more teams (fair enough since the event is heavily over-subscribed) then reducing teams to 6 players per team makes more sense to me than having an additional day and two flights.

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2015, 10:20:27 AM »
The problem APAT will have if reducing to 6 players per team will be that even more teams will apply. This event is the one APAT event that could theoretically get >300 runners easily (apart from the Worlds obv) and as such, should be held in a venue that can hold that capacity.

My simple suggestion would be to hold the event as part of a festival - APAT always hold their festivals in the larger capacity venues so more teams would get in.

I definitely dont like the idea of splitting it into two day 1s for the reasons already posted.
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2015, 13:07:59 PM »

The problem APAT will have if reducing to 6 players per team will be that even more teams will apply. This event is the one APAT event that could theoretically get >300 runners easily (apart from the Worlds obv) and as such, should be held in a venue that can hold that capacity.

My simple suggestion would be to hold the event as part of a festival - APAT always hold their festivals in the larger capacity venues so more teams would get in.

I definitely dont like the idea of splitting it into two day 1s for the reasons already posted.

There may well be more applications, not sure this is a massive problem though? The target is to get more teams into the event and therefore more new players, reducing the number to six would accomplish this.

What festival could it be attached too? The only one in the UK is WCOAP usually?
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