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noble1:

--- Quote from: Swinebag on February 04, 2012, 00:29:47 AM ---
I can see the temptation to slow down here because you don"t want to lose to the only player who can bust you.

However the guy is a station so will probably not bluff his missed draws on the river. I"d fire again for value

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not in agreement with the above bolded Rob, the villain played a draw fast on a flop, so i would not assume him to be a loose passive sort based on that...
it will be interesting with the spade turn if he check raises your bet imho :)  if he is calling suited aces in the bb then SC"s are in his range plus all the usual pairs [i"d assume]...

TheSnapper:
how did the chips go in with the A5s flopped nut flush draw, did he check raise or lead call?

Swinebag:
I thought he called off on the draw with the A5s hand. Must have misunderstood or misread OP.

Have now reread and it"s not clear at all if he played his draw fast there or if he called off.

However, I have also noticed that he has only played 3 hands since Hero has been at the table, each one being his BB.

I think there is now a better argument for checking back and keeping the pot small for the river, but I don"t think you will narrow his range enough if you check back which means if villain bets river, you will get to play a smaller pot but will have little idea how good your hand is.

Having said all of that you have an overpair and 21 bigs left with 10 bigs in the pot. Your next bet will leave you pot committed. I think this is enough to play the hand to the death.

ronaldo07:
This thinking Swine is what swayed me to shove. Alas he insta flips over 99. My1st thought after the hand was that shoving was terrible there. On reflection I"m thinking it was defo the best play in that spot as he"ll call with lots of draws And TP hands and if he folds em well I still take down a decent pot and CL.

noble1:
are u just trying to find justification for the jam on the turn Ronaldo?
personally i don"t like it, rainbow flop but co-ordinated, a few random thoughts as the football is on :) u have a vulnerable hand with that flop, the cbet for me is to small, it may entice villain to make the odd call with flyers like JQ TJ[obv] KJ AJ plus any 8 9 7 6 Q even a 5 etc wont be welcomed on the turn.. size the cbet for the potential outs villain may have - 2/3 to pot, anywhere in that sizing is ok imho with so many turn and river cards that help villain to overtake your hand.. [or there can be arguments i guess for small ball it flop and turn for 2 streets of value]
holding 2 tens doesn"t help on this texture, as villains check call range is weighed more to the 1pair OR hands that have us beat area imo... with not much to go by reads wise its wrong imo to assume villain will call turn jams light when ur both 1st and 2nd currently... [albeit with fairly shallow stacks it seems]

a good one to analyse and reflect on imo , nice post sir........

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