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Foggy:
Having had a decent run yesterday at the Genting series, and helped Mad Marty run around the car park in the snow partly undressed. I would like to raise the subject of live streams.

The viewing of hole cards has transformed the world of poker since it"s inception on LNP. Obviously with so much money now being on offer week in and week out, everyone is looking to cash in on the boom, whether through playing, supplying equipment, etc, etc. My point is, the new equipment that is capable of detecting the chipped cards and broadcasting information on the internet, is in someway giving an unfair advantage to certain players. The 15 minute delay helps the player who has friends relaying information back to the participant. Yesterday during the live stream broadcast ( where the "studio" was approx 7 feet from the feature table, the players were enquiring and receiving information about the cards that the players were playing or mucking after the hand was played. Mobile phones were not allowed to be used at the tables, but you could stand up walk 6 paces and speak or receive text messages. This cannot be the way forward for poker.

Having been fortunate enough to play on the TV in the past, the security was airtight, searched before entering the studio, accompanied to the toilet, segregated from everyone apart from your fellow competitors at the break, basically a million miles from the green room.

I believe the way forward is to delay the broadcast longer than the 15 minutes,say an hour also the "studios" should be non accessable to anyone other that the commentators, certainly not the players still in the competition, and finally mobile phones taken from the players on the feature table. I realise that information can still be available from friends, but this info perhaps could only be passed at breaks.

I would be interested in your thoughts, and ways to make our beloved game cleaner and straighter

bigalhx3:
i think it wrong its not there for the players its there for Gentings to push there tour and get people interested in the tour with no regard for the players playing the comp

Swinebag:
a neccessary evil IMO - If you want big guarantees from a new tour then you need to let them do this.

Apart from a semse of huge embarrassment, I don"t think there is too much to be gained from finding out the hole cards 15 minutes later. Of course you can get info regarding opening ranges, bluffing tendencies, 3 net frequency, etc... but surely you can pick this up just sat at the table rather than watching the live feed on your phone (or getting the info from the rail)

samson:
Pretty much cheating imo
Always gonna favour the players that go round in groups in the community and usually the younger players at that. Totally takes the game away when a few hands later players can find out exactly what cards you had.

Scousebill:
On one of the shows just a week or so ago on ESPN the pundits explained that the game was being streamed "Near live" as possible without giving too much away to help the remaining players. Shortly after that two players were against each other when a shout from the rails attracted a head turn. The pundit then said that he doesn"t like what just happened. Apparently someone shouted "He did this earlier with Jack-six" relating to an earlier hand which forced a fold. A Jack came on 4th and a fold eventually followed. The hole camera shown a Jack for a minimum pair. When the full picture became visible on the screen you could see a man in the crowd being spoken too by a "suit". The pundits said that they like the idea of delayed screening but it should not be shown on TV"s in the venue...

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