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Fatcatstu:
what time is kick off tonight dave? me and the rock will donate i think.
EDIT
Off to teh 3 horsepoo"s for old times sake :p
pokerpops:
I find it difficult to reconcile a view of someone as being a decent, winning, player with my view that anyone who can"t accept that outdraws and "bad beats" are any more likely online/on a specific site than they are live fails to appreciate the underlying role of variance in the game. After all, if it weren"t for luck, there would be no skill in poker.
Outdraws happen and thinking that somehow "it happens more often on xxx site" is, to my mind, counter-productive.
AA loses to QQ approximately once in five times, AK beats KK around once in three - it happens. More importantly, it happens just as often live as it does on Stars/FTP/DTD/888 et al. Runner runner, "one-outers", that "miracle card", none of them are ever less likely than a 46/1 shot. Contrast that with the chances of winning the lottery.
With two outs and one card to come the odds are better than those for the roulette ball landing on "lucky seven" on the next spin.
With two outs and two cards to come our opponents chance is about the same as the ball landing in one to six on that wheel.
Poker odds don"t run into the miracles area.
We learn this and we learn to live with it - we tell bad beat stories sometimes to help exorcise the demons, and we get back in the game and hope to be on the right side of some of the beats in statistical balance with those we lose.
I ran pretty bad last night in a mini satellite for this weekend"s £100+10 at G. All in and ahead vs a shortstack twice and both times he came from behind and beat me. Eventually Brian (as reported elsewhere) found AA and held vs a QQ raise, and my K9 steal attempt. This was one of the 7 out of 10 times that AA holds, but had it not done so I know that Brian"s toys would have remained firmly positioned in the pram :)
I ran good on blackjack though and having spun my £3 change from the reg fee into £45 before we started, I then span it further up to £220 giving me my buyin for Saturday (and change) via a different route :-)
Variance, it"s unavoidable. We deal with it.
PHIL_TC:
--- Quote from: david3103 on September 12, 2012, 10:22:46 AM ---
I find it difficult to reconcile a view of someone as being a decent, winning, player with my view that anyone who can"t accept that outdraws and "bad beats" are any more likely online/on a specific site than they are live fails to appreciate the underlying role of variance in the game. After all, if it weren"t for luck, there would be no skill in poker.
Outdraws happen and thinking that somehow "it happens more often on xxx site" is, to my mind, counter-productive.
AA loses to QQ approximately once in five times, AK beats KK around once in three - it happens. More importantly, it happens just as often live as it does on Stars/FTP/DTD/888 et al. Runner runner, "one-outers", that "miracle card", none of them are ever less likely than a 46/1 shot. Contrast that with the chances of winning the lottery.
With two outs and one card to come the odds are better than those for the roulette ball landing on "lucky seven" on the next spin.
With two outs and two cards to come our opponents chance is about the same as the ball landing in one to six on that wheel.
Poker odds don"t run into the miracles area.
We learn this and we learn to live with it - we tell bad beat stories sometimes to help exorcise the demons, and we get back in the game and hope to be on the right side of some of the beats in statistical balance with those we lose.
I ran pretty bad last night in a mini satellite for this weekend"s £100+10 at G. All in and ahead vs a shortstack twice and both times he came from behind and beat me. Eventually Brian (as reported elsewhere) found AA and held vs a QQ raise, and my K9 steal attempt. This was one of the 7 out of 10 times that AA holds, but had it not done so I know that Brian"s toys would have remained firmly positioned in the pram :)
I ran good on blackjack though and having spun my £3 change from the reg fee into £45 before we started, I then span it further up to £220 giving me my buyin for Saturday (and change) via a different route :-)
Variance, it"s unavoidable. We deal with it.
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The Brightside. Gotta love it :-*
Nice one for Saturday as well Dave and to Brian.. might have a dabble myself.. oh actually its an early start isnt it? Big boo x
pokerpops:
--- Quote from: PHIL_TC on September 12, 2012, 10:32:49 AM ---
Nice one for Saturday as well Dave and to Brian.. might have a dabble myself.. oh actually its an early start isnt it? Big boo x
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Late registration till sometime around half five...
Think that"s 200/400/? So 20,000 chips is pretty playable
pokerpops:
Pretty much every Thursday night for the past three years or thereabouts The Nobbers have gathered to play poker.
The original nine has changed and the game now can have anything from six to fourteen players.
We play for fun and for competition and we play for a tenner each.
It"s a night for bluffs and levels. 3betting light and never playing Q4. A night for speech play and finding a big hand when you"ve just announced that you "have" to raise here to weed out the limpers. A night to enjoy.
My role in the game is to amass a stack and then donk it off in time to re-enter and boost the pot. I"m then usually out just after the break when some fancy 5bet triple-range merged move on the rivers picked off by someone who called my FOS raise with 68 or 34 or some such, or, and more likely, when I shove the river representing a big hand on the basis that "he can only call if he has the Ah when he obviously has the Ah.
But it"s FUN!
Last night I did something I can"t remember having done before. (my memory isn"t what it was so I may have just forgotten)
I won.
Cream rises
this is all
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