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pokerpops:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on April 23, 2012, 13:15:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: david3103 on April 23, 2012, 13:06:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on April 23, 2012, 13:01:47 PM ---
quality!!
The lesson has been learnt
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Glad to have helped...
shame the football results went as they did, although Lolpool losing to Woy"s new team took some of my disappointment away
see you at the weekend
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[ ] sure was gutted as well about the results
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LOL - I see it running out like this
MCFC holding 10c 10d
MUFC holding A s Ks
flop 10s 10d 2c
turn Js
river.......... Qs
that"s the heart"s view, but sadly, in my head I see that Q being clubs and of no value versus the quads
PHIL_TC:
--- Quote from: PHIL_TC on April 23, 2012, 11:57:38 AM ---
p.s. just to get this right... the guy who flopped the straight...
1. Check calls the flop
2. Checks the turn
3. Then check raises once the boards paired and has 3 suited cards on it?
???
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Isn"t the run in more like this ::) .... Man U flop the straight and thinks it happy days... but gets rivered after thinking they played it brilliantly and everyone points and giggles a bit at the end? ;) x
pokerpops:
Ventured out to G Tuesday night for the £10+£10+£10. Got 20 runners and started pretty much on time which meant that I took my seat late which excused me from my usual role as dealer. Mistake!
The Barca/Chelsea game was on and with this added distraction we played around 10 hands in the first 30 minute level...
I made the break and took my addon (having taken my rebuy earlier when Q10 wasn"t good vs A10 on a 10 high flop. Young lad in cap and shades who loves to see flops and takes some bizarre lines jammed the flop having raised pre and it felt so much like AK/AQ that I called instantly... oh well.
Shortly after the break a commotion broke out on the other table - it seems that one of the less experienced players, facing a bet of 1000 had picked up a stack of 1000 chips and said, as he dropped five of them one by one to the table "I bet 5,000"
Instantly the original raiser accused him of string betting and a cacophony of voices filled the room with bull****.
Players on our table who had had their back to the action joined in with their view of events and the CRM was called. His ruling was that since the bet had been made in one move, ie the chips had been placed without the hand having to go back to the better"s stack, it was not a string bet and the raise stood.
Ruling called for and given but the noise continued. The original raiser lost the pot and stormed out of the room. The innocent, not understanding the fuss, "not a string better", victim of the aggravation said "I"ll just not bother coming back".
My own view, FWIW, is that people cry "string bet" way too easily and always when they don"t want to be raised. The angle-shooters pick up on the slightest error and use it to their advantage, one chip from maybe 8 slips from the hand en route to being placed as a bet and hey presto "STRING BET!"
We had an example in the GP on Sunday. Seat 9 picked up four chips to re-raise Seat 2"s raise. In making the bet, one of the larger chips hit part of her original bet and bounced back towards her so she pushed it back in. Now, Seat 2 didn"t see the bounce back, but he instantly cried the cry and attempted to escape the raise. Luckily, others at the table had seen what happened and we were at DTD where the dealers are alert and in control.
Obvious string bets just don"t happen, and have you ever seen someone cry "String Bet" and then fold to the smaller bet?
Eventually it calmed down and we continued and I won a pot where I had a better idea of my opponents cards than he did...
I raised the button 5 handed with Ks 10d
on a K J 7flop with 2 spades villain led out for 1500 into 4000 and called my raise to 5500
we checked a blank turn and he led 8000 on the 3s river
Now I was sure he didn"t have the flush - he"d made some strange plays all night and I was sure my pair of Kings was good and if I was wrong then so be it. So I pushed for about 5000 more and he snap called and turned over his cards really quickly and confidently.
So confidently that I had to look at them for a long time to see that all he had was a pair of jacks.
I pointed to my king and said "mine I believe" and he confessed that he"d thought he had the flush...
#lovetheidiots
I bust out shortly after when having raised Ad Qd and shoving an 8d 5d 5s flop
I was called by 10 10 and the 5 on the turn finished me off as Seat 7 bemoaned having folded J5 to my preflop raise
#lovetheidiots
Off to DTD for Day 2 of GP VI on Saturday. Really looking forward to that.
MintTrav:
--- Quote from: david3103 on April 26, 2012, 10:10:57 AM ---
Shortly after the break a commotion broke out on the other table - it seems that one of the less experienced players, facing a bet of 1000 had picked up a stack of 1000 chips and said, as he dropped five of them one by one to the table "I bet 5,000"
Instantly the original raiser accused him of string betting and a cacophony of voices filled the room with bull****.
Players on our table who had had their back to the action joined in with their view of events and the CRM was called. His ruling was that since the bet had been made in one move, ie the chips had been placed without the hand having to go back to the better"s stack, it was not a string bet and the raise stood.
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Correct ruling, according to Grosvenor"s new rule, ie that you can place the chips that are in your hand one-by-one. Much more sensible.
--- Quote from: david3103 on April 26, 2012, 10:10:57 AM ---
My own view, FWIW, is that people cry "string bet" way too easily and always when they don"t want to be raised. The angle-shooters pick up on the slightest error and use it to their advantage, one chip from maybe 8 slips from the hand en route to being placed as a bet and hey presto "STRING BET!"
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Totally agree. The whole string bet thing should be done away with imo. The only justification is supposed to be that someone can gain an advantage by judging another player"s reaction as they gradually put in more chips, which is nonsense. How many of us are that good that we can distinguish whether another player is pleased or disappointed to see the bet increasing? Most players don"t pick up on much more obvious tells so how are they going to pick up on something significant in that couple of seconds and then interpret correctly anything they do see? No-one string bets (which may be because there is the rule) but you hear objections and people made to take bets back, partly because people slavishly follow a rule they don"t understand and partly because someone wants to see the next card cheaply. This person is the angle-shooter, not the one who has made the so-called string bet.
Swinebag:
Good to see that someone from the Stockton massive can actually play ;D
Dave has made day three of the DTD grand prix. There are 25 left from 2300+ starters and he is right up there with the chipleaders.
He won"t mind me mentioning that he also has a golden chip, that will be worth 6k if he makes the final.
I for one will be following his progress on blonde.
Glglgl
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