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Flush draw (too passive ??)
Marty719:
My clip would be empty....
Checking this flop as other people have stated is pretty criminal. Even if we r trying to go for the flop c/r, we rep very little. B/3B is def my prefered line on this flop, or if flatted, Im gng to continue on pretty much every turn except 10"s. The fact that we are down to the final 15, will increase our fold equity massively and not exploiting these situations at this stages in tournaments will often be the difference between top 3 finishes, and frustrating "almost there" finishes...
Another good reason for bet/calling flop, is we can get inferior draws to jam. He has very few nfd"s as we expect his good Ax hands to 4b pre.
George2Loose:
Sizing is fine. Always bet flop and turn.
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: Erimus on February 27, 2012, 10:28:21 AM ---
10k gteed Stars $33, 15 left i have 51 bigs villain just come to the table no hands on him, questions are
1) Is 3 bet too small ? if so how much do you 3 bet here or is flatting an option ?
2) After flop should i lead out here or take the free card after villain has checked ?
I bet 12k into 25k pot on the turn, again too small or would you bet bigger ?
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3bet size is fine, flop is pretty decent for your hand so you must bet.
Why did you consider 3 betting a better option than flatting?
Curious about the pro"s and con"s of 3 betting pre, do we all agree 3 betting for value is best against an unknown button raise.
Fatcatstu:
--- Quote from: TheSnapper on February 27, 2012, 20:56:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Erimus on February 27, 2012, 10:28:21 AM ---
10k gteed Stars $33, 15 left i have 51 bigs villain just come to the table no hands on him, questions are
1) Is 3 bet too small ? if so how much do you 3 bet here or is flatting an option ?
2) After flop should i lead out here or take the free card after villain has checked ?
I bet 12k into 25k pot on the turn, again too small or would you bet bigger ?
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3bet size is fine, flop is pretty decent for your hand so you must bet.
Why did you consider 3 betting a better option than flatting?
Curious about the pro"s and con"s of 3 betting pre, do we all agree 3 betting for value is best against an unknown button raise.
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like the sizing Brian, nothing wrong there. please c bet this flop and bet turn too in future.
Swinebag:
I have a few questions@ the "bet flop and turn" crew.
If we fire out on the flop and turn, we leave ourselves a nice 3 quarter ish pot sized river bet to fire off our third barrell.
All but one have not given a plan for the river. What is your plan? Only Marty has said "unload the clip". Just curious that a lot of people have said bluff/semi bluff 2 streets with no advice on the river.
FWIW, I have already said that any bet on the turn would be based on reads/tendencies. If I did bet the turn it would be with the intention of shoving most rivers. What rivers would people who bet flop and turn give up on?
Also think Brendan"s point about 3 betting pre is very valid. I would auto 3 bet here, because I like doing it a lot but the argument for playing a smaller pot OOP against an unknown is fair enough.
Also question for Brian. If there are 15 left, how come you are playing on a full 9 man table?? has there just been 2 (or 3??) exits on the other table?
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