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pokerpops:
Live £75 FO, with added £25 Bounty
30 runners
Starting stack 10000
Blinds 50/100 about an hour into tournament

Villain is to my immediate left. He arrived a little late but has been very active - raising pre, hasn"t limped yet, c-bets and when that doesn"t work he"s fired the turn too, and if necessary, the river.
Only been to showdown once when he called a river bet on a flushy/straighty board with A9 and won, beating the better"s A8..

I"ve raised a few times too, and he"s commented on my propensity to raise the cut-off on his button. I assured him I wasn"t doing it light.

STacks
Me - 9200
Villain - 14,700

One limper to me in SB I raise  Jh Jd to 300 (there are no 25 chips in play so it"s 250 or 300 here
Villain 3bets to 950
Folds to me
I 4bet to 1800 and after huge thoughts villain flats

Flop -  Ah 6h 4h

I bet 3100

Villain thinks for maybe 5 seconds and moves his chipstack over the line

??

Paulie_D:
You"ve already got half your chips in the pit.....you must have had a plan...no!?

As played, you have to call.

deanp27:
Raise/4bet slightly more pre.

As played bet/folding so big is the nut worst line I think. I probably check and decide what to do if he bets

AMRN:
If you"re turning your hand into a bluff, your c-bet was way too big..... you"ve left no room to fold, and the call is pretty much mandatory.  You have 4300 left behind, and there is 9950 in the middle.

No problem with your preflop play or your bet/raise sizing.....  If he 5bets (which he probably will with hands that beat you), you can easily fold.  If he folds, you gain table image.  If he calls, he is generally doing so with a worse hand than you, and  even though your are out of position, you have the impetus in the hand.

When it comes to the flop, there is 3750 in the middle. Once you"ve c-bet, it"s unlikely that he shoves anything that you can beat.... by c-betting say 1500, you find out the same info as you do when you bet 3100 - the difference being that you can still fold.  

Put yourself in his shoes, and imagine how strong your play would look if you 4b pre OOP, then make a c-bet of only a third of the pot on an Ace high flushed board - it makes it a tough move for him to bluff.

Given that you have committed yourself with the c-bet size, he should know that you are committed to call if he shoves, hence he"s only ever doing it with a hand that has you beat..... so, it"s pretty certain now that you are beat, but you are totally pot committed.  I think you have to call and pray that hearts are live for you.

George2Loose:
Do not 4 bet fold. Either call the 3 bet or 4 bet bigger oop.

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