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Jacks or Queens after a single raise

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StuartHopkin:
Your in late position or the blinds, theyre is a single raise to roughly 3 x BB, you look down and see JJ or QQ, your medium stacked, the raiser has you covered, any players to follow you suspect are folding.

Do you;

a) Re-raise all in hoping he will call
b) Flat call giving you a chance to see the flop and reassess

2 out of the last three weeks in my favourite tournament (£20 + 2 rebuys, 90ish runners £4500 prize pool) Ive gone out in this situation.

Ive pushed, theyve shown two over cards and have hit the A on the turn or river.

Last night i couldnt help wondering wether I should be just calling, in both cases I could have pushed after the flop showed 3 undercards and they should fold (in theory) If they call with 2 over cards at least i got my chips in when i was 85% rather than 52%. By getting all my chips in he is guaranteed all 5 cards to possibly hit.

Alternatively if overcards come on the flop it gives me the chance to get away and remain in the tournament if i think they have hit. (Obviously this may not work sometimes)

Any thoughts on this situation would be good, i think ive over complicated it a bit now in my head by trying to work out the probablities of the flop showing under and over cards, and the probablities of them having overcards, being dominated and having underpairs that a low board turns into a set!!!!!!

kinboshi:
I want him to be making a mistake (and me not to be making a play that is a mistake).

With JJ, an overcard is going to fall 67% of the time (I think, but I might be wrong) on the flop.  So, calling with JJ means that you"re going to be worried about over-cards most of the time, but of course, not necessarily cards that help your opponent.

In cash games I tend to treat them as a medium pair - and I"m set-mining or hoping for a very favourable flop.

In tournaments, you need to make the most from these premium hands.  I tend to re-raise here (dependent on stack sizes, blinds, etc.), but I also need to be able to get away from the hand on the flop rather than losing my whole stack.

Difficult hands - as is AK.

smileriraq:
 generally play low stakes SNG and Cash games $5.50 and.05/.10 but i do usually make a profit at the end of the month so Bear that in mind when reading my answer as the level i play at may not be suited to the level your playing at.
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it all boils down to what has happened previously in the tournament , whether he is tight or loose if its early in the tournament or late, is there anyone else to act behind you

If you read the 2nd volume of harrington on holdem theres a pretty good section on what he calls "M" which could also factor your decision

If you call youve got position on him if you reraise all in you lose that advantage that said a reraise may get him to fold AK or AQ. If you just call and a rag flop comes what are you prepared to do if he goes all in

TBH I dont get into second guessing my decisons much as whilst you may get outrdrawn in the long run your probably likely to win that hand more often than not.

In your case you said he showed two overcards which is your basic "Race" situation sometimes you win sometimes you lose but during the game ill be trying to build up a profile on a player and that will play the bigger part on my decision rather thant what cards ive got

swordfish:
Position is important here.  I dont want to play any of those hands out of position, so if I"m in the blinds, I like a re-raise here.  From the button then a call is a decent proposition too, to evaluate after the flop.

hi_am_chris:
Impossible question to answer due to the information given, what is your stack size, what are the other players stack sizes, how many players are left, what are the blinds, how active/aggressive has the player been amd also how much more is it for him to call, is he committed or do you have fold equity. I mainly play 1 table sit n gos so usually in those im reraising here but if its early ill still have enough to fold shud they then come back over the top, if they flat call the reraise then ive got the lead when the flop comes down.

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