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gerry5421:

--- Quote from: shug on March 20, 2012, 20:50:34 PM ---
Des

thanks for setting the league up and attracting a sponsor.
thanks for listening to the concerns of some of the APAT members after week one and trying to find a solution to those concerns
unfortunately you are never going to find a structure that makes everyone happy.

I know you are too polite to respond to all the criticism, moaning and sniping that is going on... so let me.....

Lets just play league poker on a Sunday night and enjoy it.

Its a good way to finish the weekend by spending $11

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WYoung83:
 Agree with some of what u are saying. Well done to Apat for attracting stars for us to play this etc,  but its not just about spending $11 is it?
 It runs 15 legs, so to play them all which most people will do i think, and to make it worth while and have a proper crack at getting some points on the board its more of an advantade to play everyone from the start. So its an outlay of $165 ( still not very much at all i know). But to say its just $11 at the end of the week is a bit irrelevant dont you think? Its not like its a one off home game where people are dicking around is it?
 And imo we are very lucky to have it on the best poker site out there and hope it stays on stars for future seasons. So i think its a bit of a shame that we havent found somthing that suites everyone. But im sure they are working on it.

Joker161:
OK, my turn...

I though the first week was excellent, but agree that the very late finish was not ideal. I found the second week"s structure surprisingly quick (I don"t know why, but I thought the change wouldn"t make too much difference), but only relative to the previous week; it was still a pretty slow tournament. As many have said, it still lasted six hours.

To be honest, I don"t mind what we go for, I"ll try and play whenever I can. Although I haven"t read all the comments, has anyone said how much better it is that last year"s set up? I"m loving the fact that we are all playing in one big tournament rather than lots of smaller ones!

Looking forward to Sunday! Keep up the good work, APAT!

deanp27:
At last some sensible reasoned posts. some of the stuff a few pages ago was way over the top and I am afraid doesn"t reflect well.
I enjoy playing these games and you obviously can"t please everyone so a sensible structure needed to be found. I"d love to be able to play for 8hrs+ on a Sunday but I can"t (certainly not on a regular basis anyway). I think the last game was ok, but I can"t think of a much better alternative without starting the game earlier. All tournaments have inflection points where there are periods of lolflipaments (even APAT live 2 dayers have certain points where there is just loads of preflop flips around the 300/600 400/800 level for example - cant expand further as I am usually at the bar by then) so people just need to manage their stack and play better IMO.

dwh103:
I believe it"s fair to assume that people posting in this thread are more likely to be on the more serious side about poker than the average. Adapting to the structure, no problem for me or the majority of you lot. But APAT prides itself on offering player friendly structures, and I don"t believe either week 1 or week 2 got it quite right. There will be (relatively speaking) novice players who are spending more on a poker tournament than they usually do and I strongly believe they need to get some bang for their buck. Surely these are the players we need to attract and keep? Someone correct me if I"m wrong.

An hour before the maths freaks (guilty) start open jamming their 20BB stacks isn"t enough for the casual player - most people do not enjoy jam/fold poker, they want to play poker and that"s more than fair enough! (I"m basing this statement on my experience at the local casino and in the past running the biggest student poker society in the UK - 150 players, 5 hours and trying to design a structure to match).

Adding 1,000 chips to stacks and keeping the same structure will not make any significant difference to the tournament. You might get 10 minutes longer before hitting shove/fold.

Current structure is:

10/20 (30)
15/30 (45)
25/50 (75)
50/100 (150)
75/150 (225)
100/200 (300)
125/250/25 (600)
150/300/25 (675)
200/400/50 (1050)
300/600/50 (1350)
400/800/75 (1875)
500/1000/100 (2400) etc

As Dean said, there are inflection points in every tournament (mainly when the starting stacks who"ve dribbled down hit short stack mode, however I think it occurs at the wrong time. There"s a big jump from level 6 to level 7 when antes come in, right at the point where starting stacks suddenly hit 20BBs. However, I don"t think it"s far away from being as good as it can be in the time allowed. I"d personally suggest a 100/200/25 level instead of 125/250/25, and perhaps an extra level or two inserted in the first 3 or 4, losing a later level if necessary. Should be possible to eek out an extra 30 minutes of play before shove-shove-shove, which should allow more time for stacks to diverge and ease the path of eliminations. All without affecting the finish time.

I will of course support APAT regardless of whatever decisions made, and recognise Des, Tighty et al do a great job given the balancing act of a number of different opinions floating around. There"s always room for constructive comments - hope this is seen as such. Good luck ;)

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