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AA in late position early on

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Waz1892:
woohoo.. just seen posting that reply I"m a silver member with 100 posts...!!

evilpie:

--- Quote from: RioRodent on January 23, 2008, 21:35:34 PM ---
Well first off a 4x BB raise in a $1 tournament won"t get rid of any one with 2 "pretty cards", another 60 chips doesn"t make much of hole in 1500. With SB calling I"m suprised the BB didn"t call with any 2.


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Firstly I have to say that I agree with this 100%. In the early stages of a low buy in tournament you are very rarely going to see off the field with a 4 x bb raise (not that you want to see them all off with AA)

I suppose really in the early stages you"ve got to decide what you want out of your aces? If you push you"re likely to get called by any good ace or a decent pair and have a good chance of doubling. I may be wrong but it seems that people in these early stages are trying to build big stacks and will risk everything on a moderate hand. If you get out drawn, fair enough at least you were ahead at the time your chips went in.

The flip side to the push is that you"re also likely to just win the blinds which you may not decide is enough.

The difficult thing is deciding how much to raise to only get calls from proper hands so that you will have an idea where you are after the flop. Unfortunately in these tournaments you just can"t know this until the later stages. (This isn"t a knock at low buy ins, more so the high number of entries trying to build stacks)

If I get a premium hand in the early stages of a high entry low buy in tournament I try to think of the raise more in terms of stack size rather than blind level. That"s the only way to get rid of all the limpers. The way I would play this hand is to put in a big raise probably around 200-300 and hope that someone pushes either with a decent hand or thinking I"m on a move. If I only win the blinds then I"m happy. You just can"t afford to be up against 3 other players (which you would"ve been had the bb called).

GiMac:
Forgive me here but surely he has hit trips and not 2 pair otherwise your AAQQ 2 pair woulda won.  :-\

You say you put him on either AQ or KQ, well both are beating you substantially as is Q2, Q3, Q4, Q5 etc etc. If you have him on a Q then you have to let it go.

Mind you late on in $45k in stars last night I raise with AA get one caller, flop comes 8 3 7  2xdiamonds. Player check raises me all in and I still call knowing he has hit his trips, he duly turns over 77 and i hit the rail.  lol

Swinebag:

--- Quote from: GiMac on January 24, 2008, 13:10:12 PM ---
Forgive me here but surely he has hit trips and not 2 pair otherwise your AAQQ 2 pair woulda won.  :-\

You say you put him on either AQ or KQ, well both are beating you substantially as is Q2, Q3, Q4, Q5 etc etc. If you have him on a Q then you have to let it go.

Mind you late on in $45k in stars last night I raise with AA get one caller, flop comes 8 3 7  2xdiamonds. Player check raises me all in and I still call knowing he has hit his trips, he duly turns over 77 and i hit the rail.  lol

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Thers only one Q on the board. I know because i thought the J was another Q too, the first time I looked.


--- Quote from: Waz1892 on January 23, 2008, 20:11:50 PM ---


Flop -  jh qd 5h



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smileriraq:
Going Slightly off on a tangent on your previous post

I play ata a slightly higher level $2.40 6 man SNG and .5/.10 cash games but trying to build a bank roll I keep playing at this level

when I reach $30 I play SNG at the next level ($5.5 SNG 6 man) if i lose and my balance for the month drops below $30 for the month I revert back to the $2.4 level

If I win I continue at that level until the end of the month and then start from scratch - using this method I am usually up about $20-$100 at the end of the month and I get to try my hand at the next level up


obviously you can modify the level to suit your requirements

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