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TheSnapper:

--- Quote from: noble1 on April 24, 2012, 23:49:10 PM ---

--- Quote ---Also, about studying. Winning chances, and the mathematics are something I wish to understand fuly (im not too shabby at mental arithmetic). What would be some recommended reading?
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understanding ranges -
http://www.bluffmagazine.com/magazine/"G-Bucks"-Conceptualizing-Money-Matters.-Phil-Galfond-985.htm
http://www.bluffmagazine.com/magazine/Wait,-Weight-Phil-Galfond-932.htm
http://www.thepokerbank.com/strategy/mathematics/g-bucks/

counting combo"s etc etc is a form of Bayes Theorem like Galfond points out, against predictable players its great :) but against very good players who mix up their play since they are smart and logical, you simply have to use a opponent model that includes the concept of mixing it up...  they will make plays based on implied odds and bluffing and deception, but they generally won"t make purely bad plays, so guesstimation as i call it is required :)
the concept of guesstimation is also needed for BAD players :) because generally the worse the opponent, the less precision you will have in your estimation, because there play is very erratic :) so when you are thinking about their play, you have to think that they just may be making a huge mistake pre or post, and allow for that in your guesstimations :)

a bit of maths -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_probability_(Texas_hold_%27em)


going back to the subject/concept of ranges for differing styles/skill levels of opponents -
you need to use a model in your head that"s specific to each inidividual - are they loose, aggressive, do they mix it up, are they just a bad player that plays every hand, etc. :)
for any estimation, you need to think about the situation yourself and your opponent/s maybe in, post flop try to take the ranges idea to the point where you can imagine how a opponent will react with there range based on what your action might be, or how do they view your range when they bet and see you call etc etc...  try to guesstimate what your opponent will have in the future if you make a certain action and how his range will respond... 
nothing new in the above, thats basically poker boiled down....

and on improving in general here is a Galfond quote to think about -
--- Quote ---Think about the value of plays that you often don't consider.  Think about different ways a hand can play out, and what you have to gain or lose by taking an alternate line.
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Fair play Mark, keeping it simple ;D

AAroddersAA:
The Mathematics of poker is pretty easy really, more so when you have all the tools to help you these days. We are all sort of shooting in the dark here though, the best way to understand all this is to look at real hands and comment on them and read other peoples comments.

I would say that looking back through your own hands is the best way to go and when you see an interesting one post it, even if you think you played it right, you may get an interesting new way of looking at things, at the very least you will see how other people may look at similar situations. Make notes on opponents as you review the hands (include flop texture in these, is it flushing pr rainbow, wet or dry). Look at bet sizing when reviewing sessions as there are a lot of tells in this.

noble1:
u want simple?  :)

do you know what you are going to do if you flop mid pair? or say if u raised QTo and the flop is Q74r and get action? what do u do if the flop is Q92 2flushed and u get check minraised? can you answer these questions depending on if the player is tight/loose/aggressive/passive? if they have a 150/100/70/50/30 BB stack? can you think about all this, put them on a range and calculate your equity of your mediocre hand OOP and then make a profitable decision?

if not then u need to think about it a little more in depth... thats how u improve... :)

MrBlack:
Ok guys hand from tonight. Not really a thinker but, just want to evaluate my thinking etc.

blinds are 300/600

I pick up AQdd in the sb.

A guy utg+2 shoves his shortstack of 1600.
Guy beside him flat calls the 1600 and leaves himself around 3500 behind.
Hijack calls aswell leaving around 14000 behind.

Now, when it gets to me in the SB im thinking I should shove, infact i almost did. But, having not seen many hands at the table except for AA/KK being slow played. I opt to call.

Flop is T88 rainbow, no diamond. MP checks, HJ bets, and i opt to fold. Was this the right play? Had I shoved I would have spiked an Ace on the river, and the HJ had JTo . If I shove PF, im headsup against the shorty who had 77.

WYoung83:
What stack did u have? Pretty important. I dont think im ever folding AQs here though, the guy who flats the shove has only got 6 BBs behind (weird for him to just flat), and the guy who over calls from H/J has a pretty wide range. I would shove here with AQs.

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