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PLO Flop decision
AAroddersAA:
Will respond to the above later, this may not be relevant but thought I would post it anyway.
The preflop percentages are not really that relevant. We are about 40% against a range of AA though.
If anybody can help with this calculation it would be nice.
Assuming his range is AAxx only which does not seem unfair to be honest.
It costs $2.90 to call the 4-bet and we create a pot of $8.72.
Most flops that we continue with will have at least 60% equity. Some will be a bit lower mainly due to the possibility of suited aces, most are better. I am only continuing after the flop with the folllowing hands:-
Straight
Straight draw with at least 13 outs
three of a kind
two pair
one pair and straight draw with at least 8 outs
These hand seem to give us around 60% on average. Odds oracle say we flop 60% 23% of the time.
So 77 times in 100 we lose our investment of $2.90 = -$223.30
40% of the 23 times we get it in we lose our stack
23/100 * 40 = 9.2*38.61 = 355.21
Total loss = $578.51
60% of the times we get it in we win $47.33
23/100 * 60 = 13.8* = 653.15
Total money made = $653.15
Net profit on call = about 74c per hand
This assumes zero fold equity and we are able to pick spots where we will are 60% on the flop and means we assume we play perfectly. If our opponent folds then our win rate goes up in theory as we win more if he folds than our average profit per hand if we always get it in.
Paulie_D:
AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on April 19, 2012, 15:07:21 PM ---
Using something I found online (http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-calculator/omaha)
I ran your hand against ad1 A s 6c 5h which sort of fits.
Pre-flop: You"re 46% against that.
Post: 70%
If I give him suited A s 6s , you"re 38% pre and 67% post.
FWIW.
--- End quote ---
We don"t know what his hand is though, we can put him quite confidently on range of AAxx which we are 40% against pre and 66% against post flop. This includes all possible combos of AAxx.
What I would like to know is what are the range of hands we can flop that make up an equity of 60% or better post flop. There does not seem to be a way to do it in Odds Oracle if anybody knows of a way then I would be very interested to find out about it.
noble1:
Odds Oracle Results (2.03 Professional)
Omaha Hi, Generic syntax
PLAYER_1 Js7sTh8d
PLAYER_2 AA**
7967 trials (randomized)
PLAYER_1 HAND_VS_HAND Next Street Equity
do u mean something like next street equity Rodders?
AAroddersAA:
I have the next street equity.
What I don"t really understand how I work out what hand range gives me the equity I need to get it in and make a profit. I put some figures into Odds Oracle and can pretty much guesstimate it is 60%. The average flop equity tells me I need 45% to break even to get it in on the flop but I still lose the preflop investment that way.
I think I am missing something here?
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