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PLO Flop decision
AAroddersAA:
At the moment pot is the general feeling, which I expected (I didn"t pot which I feel is an error).
Preflop is OK I think but need to run a couple of things back through Odds Oracle. In this game I actually think you can call off quite a bit more than this quite wide, although Steve"s point about being OOP is a good one. Steve in your opinion does being in position change this?
AMRN:
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on April 19, 2012, 10:29:30 AM ---
At the moment pot is the general feeling, which I expected (I didn"t pot which I feel is an error).
Preflop is OK I think but need to run a couple of things back through Odds Oracle. In this game I actually think you can call off quite a bit more than this quite wide, although Steve"s point about being OOP is a good one. Steve in your opinion does being in position change this?
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Position is king in all forms of poker, but massively more so in PLO. In position, the cards matter far less - out of position, they are everything.
Position gives you a number of advantages, which are exaggerated in the drawing game:
* Evaluate the equity you have in the pot more accurately
* Increases your control of the hand and of the pot
* Increases your chances of getting to showdown
* Provides you with better opportunities to bluff
AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: AMRN on April 19, 2012, 10:34:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on April 19, 2012, 10:29:30 AM ---
At the moment pot is the general feeling, which I expected (I didn"t pot which I feel is an error).
Preflop is OK I think but need to run a couple of things back through Odds Oracle. In this game I actually think you can call off quite a bit more than this quite wide, although Steve"s point about being OOP is a good one. Steve in your opinion does being in position change this?
--- End quote ---
Position is king in all forms of poker, but massively more so in PLO. In position, the cards matter far less - out of position, they are everything.
--- End quote ---
Yes it is.
So would you say if we were on the button we could play this hand happily, is a 3-bet or a call from the button?
This might be a fold pre actually, I tried tried to work some stuff out on paper and the numbers don"t come out as I thought they would. It really does look like a call based purely on the maths though.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on April 19, 2012, 11:02:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on April 19, 2012, 10:34:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on April 19, 2012, 10:29:30 AM ---
At the moment pot is the general feeling, which I expected (I didn"t pot which I feel is an error).
Preflop is OK I think but need to run a couple of things back through Odds Oracle. In this game I actually think you can call off quite a bit more than this quite wide, although Steve"s point about being OOP is a good one. Steve in your opinion does being in position change this?
--- End quote ---
Position is king in all forms of poker, but massively more so in PLO. In position, the cards matter far less - out of position, they are everything.
--- End quote ---
Yes it is.
So would you say if we were on the button we could play this hand happily, is a 3-bet or a call from the button?
This might be a fold pre actually, I tried tried to work some stuff out on paper and the numbers don"t come out as I thought they would. It really does look like a call based purely on the maths though.
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Fold pre. If I had a fully connected run through without the gap, I would probably raise the button. With 78TJ I would definitely consider calling on the button. oop, I just wouldn"t want to be in the hand at all.
AMRN:
If we assume the 4bet range to be a double suited hand with a pair and an Ace - RANGE[SUITED:DBL-ANY-ANY+PAIR:ANY,A+], our hand has 50.1%. So in essence we"re flipping, and having to play the rest of the hand oop - there could also be a danger of significant reverse implied odds against hands like AAKQ where we might catch the wrong end of the straight.
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