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MTT : AJ on SB against passive limper
mporter123:
You speak English better than most English people.
As played just check fold the flop and look for a better spot to get them in. We can jam pre really wide here and pick up the chips.
I wouldn't give too much credence to the HUD stats, not enough hands to make real judgement calls and short handed play will sku stats. They only really help pointing out the fish in MTT"s - a good indicator in this case.
AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: deanp27 on May 17, 2012, 10:10:57 AM ---
Being picky but it"s not a 3bet.
The reason I jam is that he hardly ever has a strong hand and you pick up enough to make avoiding a tough spot with a shallow stack worthwhile.
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This, you are also likely to have good equity against his calling range..
Most of the time you just take it down which shows a big long term profit.
Jabreck:
Thank you for your answers :) I realize that was a easy shove to avoid troubles after the flop.
Another question : If I had been button instead of SB, would it have been a shove with 20BB? I mean I stole his limp several time raising 4BB with hand like Q9s or 78s with the intention to fold against a shove from the limper or the blinds. So shouldn"t I do the same thing with AJo? (I would probably fold against a shove with AJo on this table because they was usually passive). And if i raised 4BB in this situation and the limper call, should I check to the river?
AMRN:
--- Quote from: Jabreck on May 18, 2012, 09:12:09 AM ---
Thank you for your answers :) I realize that was a easy shove to avoid troubles after the flop.
Another question : If I had been button instead of SB, would it have been a shove with 20BB? I mean I stole his limp several time raising 4BB with hand like Q9s or 78s with the intention to fold against a shove from the limper or the blinds. So shouldn"t I do the same thing with AJo? (I would probably fold against a shove with AJo on this table because they was usually passive). And if i raised 4BB in this situation and the limper call, should I check to the river?
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the massive difference is that you would have position post flop, and would be in a much better spot to play the hand in whichever way you choose.
If you were the button, and you feel you have an edge over the limper, then there is just no point shoving here as if he calls, you have negated your edge and are trusting to luck. I would 3b, but certainly not to 4xbb - just no need for it to be that big. I would 3b to 3x at most - with the stack sizes, this should be enough to get rid of the blinds and to isolate the limper - it also means that your cbet post flop doesn"t need to be as big, and you can come away with more of your stack intact if you end up having to let go.
deanp27:
I"d still shove
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