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Should i have got away from this
Honeybadg:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on June 06, 2012, 17:15:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Honeybadg on June 05, 2012, 20:31:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: George2Loose on June 05, 2012, 00:19:38 AM ---
Think most points have been covered. Anyone saying the 96 call is fine even if 300 bigs deep is wrong. It"s a terrible defend.
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At 300BB you are paying 3BB for the chance to stack your opponent - feels like a pretty cheap call to make with massive upside.
Given only 40BB to win here - it is a pretty loose/rubbish call to make - I will leave my previous post to amuse myself - good evidence that I have become way too loose at making hopeful/hero calls.
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So you"re basically peeling atc in the hope of stacking an opponent when this deep?
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Yes - I would pay 3BB to have a shot at 300BB - I accept that people will be licking their lips ... but that would make me lick my lips (squared)
I really do need to get back to the tables ...
George2Loose:
And what about the times u flop something that"s not the nuts? Spose u just check fold the K96 board? Or the 9 high flop?
Marty719:
Our bb peeling range obv has to take into account villain type. Sure we can peel 96o 300x deep if villain is terrible and going to stack off with overpairs/tptk, but the standard is improving, and this won"t apply the vast majority of the time. A lot of articles years ago talked about the implied odds of peels from the bb, but I dnt really think it applies as much now that people positional awareness and general hand-reading abilities are so much better.
Also:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on June 08, 2012, 14:57:59 PM ---
And what about the times u flop something that"s not the nuts? Spose u just check fold the K96 board? Or the 9 high flop?
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Reverse implied odds >>> implied odds in these cases without added info about villain
George2Loose:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on June 08, 2012, 15:44:24 PM ---
Our bb peeling range obv has to take into account villain type. Sure we can peel 96o 300x deep if villain is terrible and going to stack off with overpairs/tptk, but the standard is improving, and this won"t apply the vast majority of the time. A lot of articles years ago talked about the implied odds of peels from the bb, but I dnt really think it applies as much now that people positional awareness and general hand-reading abilities are so much better.
Also:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on June 08, 2012, 14:57:59 PM ---
And what about the times u flop something that"s not the nuts? Spose u just check fold the K96 board? Or the 9 high flop?
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Reverse implied odds >>> implied odds in these cases without added info about villain
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Exactly. Conditions have to be perfect to make this call remotely profitable otherwise you"re just burning money.
Honeybadg:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on June 08, 2012, 14:57:59 PM ---
And what about the times u flop something that"s not the nuts? Spose u just check fold the K96 board? Or the 9 high flop?
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On both of the above I would draw the 9 or 6 required ...
These are obviously problem hands ...
The counter to the above is when you get paid on three barrelled bluffs with missed AK typed hands ...
All the face to face tournaments I have played have featured a lot of tragic play and little sign of any amazing leap in standard ... that said I am down to very low volume of tournament play at the moment.
Further if people are getting great at laying down KK then even more scope to bluff with the worse hand ...
How many BB would you want to start playing here?
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