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Scousebill:
Me personally, I think it should be the Third Division. For Charles Green trying to persuade clubs about the amount of money the League will lose is poor. Whatever money is involved in Scottish football now is probably contracted and is unlikely to change by much if it is allowed to. Think of what money the teams from the Third Division will gain by playing Rangers, a lot more than what they would receive from the SPL coffers with Rangers in the Premier.
How many Premier teams are now looking at finishing second to Celtic in the league with the rewards that brings. Champions League, even if it is only one round it is going to be there for three seasons at least.
The rules are the rules and just because it is Rangers, a massive team with an illustrious history, it should not mean that they should not be punished the same way as any other club would be if they had done the same.
Also, whatever happens after July 4th, if FIFA and UEFA do not think the sanctions are tough enough then they may well impose their own punishments for taking the initial appeal to the law courts and not keeping it in house with the Sports Arbitration Courts..
Hard times are ahead for Rangers, although it may well be for only four seasons it will be hard.
Whatever happens I hope they survive but they do need to be punished..

Swinebag:
Third division for me. Will be a great journey for the fans.

Santino67:
I"m a Rangers fan and still agree that it has to be 3rd Division for what they"ve been up to, though I do have to say Bill, the TV companies could pull the plug on any contract as they have a clause stating that both parts of the Old Firm are happy to have their games screened. Not sure the TV companies will be keen on that being weekly runs of Rangers v East Stirling, Elgin v Rangers etc. The TV contracts disappearing would be a very large nail in the coffin of Scottish Football and things are already bad enough.

AAroddersAA:
Not an expert in Scottish football but.......

SPL ainec - how is this even a question. Grant why does it HAVE to be Div 3 mate? It doesn"t, they can go into the SPL, there is a spare space and they are the best option to fill it by a mile !!!! You are suggesting risking killing off the SPL.

Whilst I do feel Rangers SHOULD be punished, this is just not a sensible course of action. The SPL without Rangers is much less than the SPL with Rangers and I cannot see how Scottish football does not suffer horribly, the league is not strong enough without them. Celtic would become MUCH weaker as they would not have to be nearly as strong to win the SPL at a canter (OK it will probably happen with or without Rangers for the next couple of season). The other teams miss out on big pay days they get by playing Rangers (look at the difference in SPL teams home gates when they play the Old Firm teams) and are the games against Celtic as meaningful if it doesn"t matter if they win or lose as Celtic are going to win the SPL anyway. Maybe even more so next season as they would have a very realistic chance of beating them. Taking Rangers away punishes Scottish football more than demoting Rangers punishes them. It also probably hurts the national team.

If Rangers end up in Div 3 then I reckon by the end of the season we will have a situation where the best team in Wales is better than the best team in Scotland. Maybe Celtic will think sod this and finally clear off to the EPL (ok that"s still unlikely but the removal of Rangers makes it more likely), they would be followed by newco Rangers a few seasons later if that happens, and that will be that for the SPL - gg wp.

Surely the SPL teams know this and will eventually vote Rangers in. Rangers will be just fine either way, if Scottish football falls apart there will no doubt be a place in the EPL waiting (even if they have to get promoted into it - and they would be, they are a massive club). Teams like Aberdeen and Hearts would be the ones to suffer long term.

Scousebill:
Rodders.... Celtic have no chance of joining the EPL and Rangers are now a million miles away from ever being accepted even into the English league nevermind EPL.
The Scottish Premier may suffer with the loss of Rangers but as I have said if the EPL don"t impose strong sanctions then FIFA certainly will because of the external court case.
The TV revenue argument doesn"t really stand up for teams lower down the leagues as they don"t get that much of a percentage anyway, that is why they have been trying to negotiate their own terms with BBC Alba and ESPN. They certainly would have a good bargaining tool if Rangers were demoted.
If there was to be a breakaway from the SPL with Celtic and "Newco" Rangers then it would likely be back to the drawing board with the Atlantic League plan of The Big Two and Scandinavian teams making a new multi-nation league. Something like this, even if sanctioned by UEFA would only last a few years as there would be no representation in the Champions League as they would not be national champions. The whole of European qualification rules would have to be changed and that is why Celtic would never be allowed to join the EPL. Not that they would ever qualify for Europe from the EPL anyway.
I await the results of the vote on July 4th with interest.. Born on the 4th July could soon become Died on 4th July....

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