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noble1:

--- Quote from: david3103 on August 13, 2012, 10:50:04 AM ---
So... from memory on stack sizes
£100FO at G Stockton. 6 paid, 7 remain

There are two stacks in the 10-15BB range, plus one monster

Middle-aged (50ish) player renowned for his tightness (although known to me to be capable of making a move) raises utg+1 to just over 2BB from around 30BB stack
I 3bet BB to around 10BB showing huge strength from a stack of around 50BB

Orig raiser ships - really quick

What do we think his range is?

What"s the worst we call with?

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hard to say just going by u wrote here, i"m more interested in your thoughts pre before u acted..........

as long as u thought beforehand when u 3bet whether or not you was doing it for value or to bluff then ok if u didn"t but just 3bet then thought what to do next when he reacted then obv not so good :)
bet sizing wise - i don"t mind it if u thought he folded way to much and any shortie stacks behind then u was prepared to call if they pushed... btw what did u plan to do if a shortie behind flatted/4bet jammed etc and tighty utg1 5bet or called a 4bet? [providing u didnt do this from the BB]
the 5x 3bet - if your opponents have become accustomed to responding well to the std sized 3bet,[especially from yourself] then as long u planned/thought/assumed rightly or wrongly about how they"d respond/view to u doing it and u adjusted your bluff/value range accordingly, well if that was the case then ok...

WYoung83:
First id say your 3 bet is to big, way to big, it actually shows the opposite of what it was intended to imo. Why would you 3 bet so big with KK/AA for example.
His all in range is really narrow QQ+, AK. For me in a live game vs a 50 yr old nit then QQs + and fold everything else, especially with two stacks of 10-15 bbs.

Erimus:
My thoughts and reasonings behind this play, I am the 50 year old nit in question, not 50ish, 50 is bad enough.

I think if you 4 bet me smaller I would of been more inclined to set mine, I don"t think I can set mine with the stack sizes as they were, also if you 4 bet me smaller it would make me a lot more wary of a possible monster behind, a year ago I probably insta fold, perhaps i should with 2 short stacks still in and it being the cash bubble, but thought the insta shove would indicate massive strength, if I took my time with the shove  I am fairly sure you would call.

If you have AA or KK you want me to call so why so big that is my initial thought, I know you are capable of 4 betting light, and with your stack size I am pretty sure if I shove the lot in you can fold mid pairs JJ, AQ, AK against me even QQ, my insta shove obviously indicates massive strength, it is the cash bubble and although not massive money it has been a long day and I still would like to make a profit, like I said in the blog once you haven"t insta called I am certain you haven"t got AA or KK but am still sweating on JJ or QQ and didn"t really want to flip, this move was totally player dependant I don"t think I do the same thing against anyone else at the table, you still have 40 ish big blinds left if you fold, and you know there will be a better spot at the table.

If you did show up with KK or AA then fair enough, made a move didn"t work, go home kicking myself for not being a nit and folding to the potential cash.

Erimus:

--- Quote from: duke3016 on August 13, 2012, 13:36:20 PM ---
If this is the hand I think it is, I would not have put him on what he did have  ;D

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it"s quite dark on the dark side Ger, I don"t know whether I like it or not.

hi_am_chris:
I was just about to put how do we think he percieves our play and do we have previous with this player?

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