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Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
PantsMan:
That just shows one of the players who"s shoved is decent but even then he"s shoving over the top of a raise from the cutoff. The fact he"s a good player doesn"t mean he"s got aces or kings here. In fact i"d say it"s less likely.
And here"s the other person in the pot:
http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/bapsilva/poker/ratings/AB91A27F4E4F48CB888608631E1D9124.html?t=3
For every kuzla in these tourneys there are 4 or 5 bapsilvas!
noble1:
--- Quote from: PantsMan on August 16, 2012, 16:22:27 PM ---
That just shows one of the players who"s shoved is decent but even then he"s shoving over the top of a raise from the cutoff. The fact he"s a good player doesn"t mean he"s got aces or kings here. In fact i"d say it"s less likely.
And here"s the other person in the pot:
http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/bapsilva/poker/ratings/AB91A27F4E4F48CB888608631E1D9124.html?t=3
For every kuzla in these tourneys there are 4 or 5 bapsilvas!
--- End quote ---
Grant hasn"t raised from the cut off, there has only been 3 folds on a table of 9...
shame Grant wasn"t using a hud, it would of been interesting to know what his raise % from mp and his overall pfr % whilst seated at the table with these guys... tbh imo to categorically say never fold in this spot would be foolish, a bit more info would be nice :) kuzla has shoved 22bb to win 5bb from the hi-jack with 4 to act behind, if we knew Grants stats it"d give everyone a better idea of what sort range kuzla might have, likewise bapsilva...
tough one Grant, from looking at kuzla"s stats he won, i hope it wasn"t to horrendous :)
Santino67:
Great to see all the responses to this and it"s all part of the never ending learning of this magical game. I"m sure many of you will be surprised to know that I folded and left them to battle it out. Two reasons for my fold:
1/I believed I was in bad shape against one of them
2/ I have a decent enough stack and a good feel for this table, that I believe I can pick up chips elsewhere
Turns out it was a poor fold, I was gutted when I saw them flip over (Kuzla) AK v (Bapsilva) AQ. I"d have been in tremendous shape in this spot. I still felt like a bit of a chump afterwards, despite the fact that an ace landed on the river.
WYoung83:
At least u can admit to a bad fold then. Did you know who Kuzla was at the time? How would of that affected your decision if you could see that he crushes the micro/low stakes big field mtts?
I think for me, if i know hes a sicko then im calling even quicker.
Santino67:
--- Quote from: WYoung83 on August 16, 2012, 22:33:08 PM ---
At least u can admit to a bad fold then. Did you know who Kuzla was at the time? How would of that affected your decision if you could see that he crushes the micro/low stakes big field mtts?
I think for me, if i know hes a sicko then im calling even quicker.
--- End quote ---
Probably true if I"d known more about both players but I"m not playing huge amounts and only joined Stars this season for the APAT league. I certainly didn"t get an impression of either of them being aggro on that table while I"d been there.
Just found this lol
http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/SantinoAPAT/poker/results/DF20B80A346C4869BA06CFA72A337F7D.html?t=2
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