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The Rail On Sunday - 19/08/12
Santino67:
--- Quote from: dwh103 on August 22, 2012, 21:40:24 PM ---
Ah well, SB shove with Q7, called by K6 that hits two pair. Gone in 20th for $49.47.
One day I"ll make a FT on Stars.
Cheers Grant for the rail.
--- End quote ---
Poor call for 10 BBs and half his stack with K6os FFS ???
dwh103:
--- Quote from: Santino67 on August 22, 2012, 23:00:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: dwh103 on August 22, 2012, 21:40:24 PM ---
Ah well, SB shove with Q7, called by K6 that hits two pair. Gone in 20th for $49.47.
One day I"ll make a FT on Stars.
Cheers Grant for the rail.
--- End quote ---
Poor call for 10 BBs and half his stack with K6os FFS ???
--- End quote ---
Technically it"s within the correct calling range if I"m shoving Nash.
However this is in a vacuum and assumes I"m shoving Nash (if I"m shoving tighter/wider, he"ll need to adjust accordingly), and ignores other factors (opponents, ICM) that may make it more +EV to pick a different spot. In actuality I"m shoving ATC (because the average player calls far tighter than is optimal) - if he knows/assumes this then a call is more +EV.
Shoving Q7o and calling K6o are both pretty much marginal spots with 11BBs (no antes) according to Nash. Once antes are added both actions become quite trivial in a nutshell.
Santino67:
--- Quote from: dwh103 on August 22, 2012, 23:54:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Santino67 on August 22, 2012, 23:00:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: dwh103 on August 22, 2012, 21:40:24 PM ---
Ah well, SB shove with Q7, called by K6 that hits two pair. Gone in 20th for $49.47.
One day I"ll make a FT on Stars.
Cheers Grant for the rail.
--- End quote ---
Poor call for 10 BBs and half his stack with K6os FFS ???
--- End quote ---
Technically it"s within the correct calling range if I"m shoving Nash.
However this is in a vacuum and assumes I"m shoving Nash (if I"m shoving tighter/wider, he"ll need to adjust accordingly), and ignores other factors (opponents, ICM) that may make it more +EV to pick a different spot. In actuality I"m shoving ATC (because the average player calls far tighter than is optimal) - if he knows/assumes this then a call is more +EV.
Shoving Q7o and calling K6o are both pretty much marginal spots with 11BBs (no antes) according to Nash. Once antes are added both actions become quite trivial in a nutshell.
--- End quote ---
Yeah totally agree but given that the only hands you"ve shown for a good while were killing that, should"ve made him think it"s a very poor spot he"s in
dwh103:
--- Quote from: Santino67 on August 23, 2012, 01:42:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: dwh103 on August 22, 2012, 23:54:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Santino67 on August 22, 2012, 23:00:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: dwh103 on August 22, 2012, 21:40:24 PM ---
Ah well, SB shove with Q7, called by K6 that hits two pair. Gone in 20th for $49.47.
One day I"ll make a FT on Stars.
Cheers Grant for the rail.
--- End quote ---
Poor call for 10 BBs and half his stack with K6os FFS ???
--- End quote ---
Technically it"s within the correct calling range if I"m shoving Nash.
However this is in a vacuum and assumes I"m shoving Nash (if I"m shoving tighter/wider, he"ll need to adjust accordingly), and ignores other factors (opponents, ICM) that may make it more +EV to pick a different spot. In actuality I"m shoving ATC (because the average player calls far tighter than is optimal) - if he knows/assumes this then a call is more +EV.
Shoving Q7o and calling K6o are both pretty much marginal spots with 11BBs (no antes) according to Nash. Once antes are added both actions become quite trivial in a nutshell.
--- End quote ---
Yeah totally agree but given that the only hands you"ve shown for a good while were killing that, should"ve made him think it"s a very poor spot he"s in
--- End quote ---
I"d love to get inside his head and see what he was thinking. I"d love to do a 20 player ICM calc but that"s impossible as I don"t have everyone"s chip counts (and it would be mega difficult anyway) and see whether the $ consideration is significant.
He could be a genius. Or a fortunate mouth breather.
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