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The 2nd National Online League of Season 6
Sugar_Free:
--- Quote from: GiMac on September 17, 2012, 13:47:52 PM ---
Please explain how exactly your proposed option would attract new players and create the same banter, buzz & rivalry there was in the last league?
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Attract new players...IDK, but then again IDK how they attracted new players with the previous format. Actually, not true, I was in Cork watching Frank go from table to table asking every player if the would like "to play for Ireland" and how their eyes lit up at the thought of representing their country. I assume the Wales and Scotland requests were met with something similar. I imagine Curly going round asking "How would you like to play for the South East, not including London" would not get the same reaction.
Banter and buzz.....I must have been in one of the latter teams as I don"t recall this although I believe that anyone can set up a facebook group and have it not region exclusive.
Rivalry......There was rivalry between Scotland and Wales, did any of the other 11 teams have a rivalry?
I get that you don"t like the idea, honest I do and I"m not trying to sell you on it. You just made up a problem on it that wasn"t there and all I did was put you right.
GiMac:
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on September 17, 2012, 14:24:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: GiMac on September 17, 2012, 13:47:52 PM ---
Please explain how exactly your proposed option would attract new players and create the same banter, buzz & rivalry there was in the last league?
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Attract new players...IDK, but then again IDK how they attracted new players with the previous format. Actually, not true, I was in Cork watching Frank go from table to table asking every player if the would like "to play for Ireland" and how their eyes lit up at the thought of representing their country. I assume the Wales and Scotland requests were met with something similar. I imagine Curly going round asking "How would you like to play for the South East, not including London" would not get the same reaction.
Banter and buzz.....I must have been in one of the latter teams as I don"t recall this although I believe that anyone can set up a facebook group and have it not region exclusive.
Rivalry......There was rivalry between Scotland and Wales, did any of the other 11 teams have a rivalry?
I get that you don"t like the idea, honest I do and I"m not trying to sell you on it. You just made up a problem on it that wasn"t there and all I did was put you right.
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there was plenty of rivalry between NE (just jocks with their heads kicked in), Yorks (Tight feckers), Scotland (Sweaty socks), Wales (Sheep Shaggers), NW (north west of where exactly?), SE (Southern poofs), I could go on but I think you get the point. Much of the banter went on in the chat box on stars itself, especially on the final tables. Which even if we didn"t make, we stayed to rail our fellow team mates, another part of being in a team.
I didn"t say there was a problem with your solution per se, as I said the mechanics are sound, I just asked you to explain whilst solving the supposed problem a minority of people have with the old format, how would your solution still retain the benefits the vast majority of us enjoyed of the last one. but instead you choose to denigrate the last one, I think that answers my question. Thanks.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on September 17, 2012, 14:24:33 PM ---
Attract new players...IDK, but then again IDK how they attracted new players with the previous format. Actually, not true, I was in Cork watching Frank go from table to table asking every player if the would like "to play for Ireland" and how their eyes lit up at the thought of representing their country. I assume the Wales and Scotland requests were met with something similar. I imagine Curly going round asking "How would you like to play for the South East, not including London" would not get the same reaction.
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^^This
I think this gets overlooked (conveniently by those that benefit) but is a critical factor. Personally, I play for the West Mids region, but only because I"m in the catchment (and have a few mates that also play there).... but it"s not the same emotional attachment that one gets when "playing for their country" - and that is why I never liked the rule change that created the country teams.... the playing field is uneven. Where is team England?
Not trying to re-open the old debate (before Gordon jumps down my throat), but it is an opinion. I will just get on an play whatever APAT put before us.
Sef:
--- Quote from: MintTrav on September 16, 2012, 00:06:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sef on September 15, 2012, 21:30:33 PM ---
Not going to go into all the negativity surrounding team sizes etc. guys as it seems to be a recurring (nonsensical) theme. All I will say is why not put that energy into doing as Team Scotland and others have done and get recruiting
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--- Quote from: gerry5421 on September 15, 2012, 15:55:25 PM ---
I read in this thread how much of an advantage Scotland , Wales etc had with team size , can i just say that we grew that size from nothing a couple of years ago through recruitment and promotion, to the team it was last year , and resent the comments of unfairness made.
Are we really going to go back down this road again , it seems that this discussion arises in between every league break and is becoming tedious to say the least.
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APAT has asked for a discussion, which is why there is one. You can"t close it down because you don"t like what people are saying. I don"t recall seeing negative statements, as you claim, apart from your own. What I have seen is people putting forward constructive ideas.
And the idea that other regions can go and recruit members like Scotland supposedly did is unfeasible. They don"t have the inherent advantage that Scotland has of people who grew up there but live somewhere else wanting to play for them.
You would like to keep this advantage. You can post your views to try to achieve that, but other people are entitled to post theirs, whether you resent it or not.
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Firstly for the record I resent nothing. Theres no negativity intended in my post and if you read it that way then hey ho. The negativity is in the whole ridiculous argument of team sizes (in my opinion) ;) it"s just getting boring. Secondly why wouldn"t we want to keep an advantage that WE worked hard to build from nothing through the same avenues available to everyone on every team?? It"s perfectly feasible for every team to build this way and I would urge everyone to do it..... we welcome the chase ;D
Chipaccrual:
--- Quote from: AMRN on September 17, 2012, 14:56:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on September 17, 2012, 14:24:33 PM ---
Attract new players...IDK, but then again IDK how they attracted new players with the previous format. Actually, not true, I was in Cork watching Frank go from table to table asking every player if the would like "to play for Ireland" and how their eyes lit up at the thought of representing their country. I assume the Wales and Scotland requests were met with something similar. I imagine Curly going round asking "How would you like to play for the South East, not including London" would not get the same reaction.
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^^This
I think this gets overlooked (conveniently by those that benefit) but is a critical factor. Personally, I play for the West Mids region, but only because I"m in the catchment (and have a few mates that also play there).... but it"s not the same emotional attachment that one gets when "playing for their country" - and that is why I never liked the rule change that created the country teams.... the playing field is uneven. Where is team England?
Not trying to re-open the old debate (before Gordon jumps down my throat), but it is an opinion. I will just get on an play whatever APAT put before us.
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Normally at the bar ;)
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