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The 2nd National Online League of Season 6
GiMac:
--- Quote from: Curlarge on September 17, 2012, 11:25:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: GiMac on September 17, 2012, 03:01:28 AM ---
Ok here is my tuppence. Personally I do not feel that those teams who made an effort to recruit new members to APAT and then actively encourage attendance should be penalised. Accordingly I would propose that some teams, who seem unable to get their numbers up, be amalgamated into neighbouring teams examples would be EMids/WMids, Ireland/Europe, East of England/London. Then numbers are more equalised. But if that can"t be done then option A is the only way that doesn"t penalise the enthusiastic & positive contribution by those teams who have driven up numbers.
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Gordon, valid points as always, BUT...the whole reason that Luton was disbanded as a team was exactly because of this. Waz was so successful in running the team that it was deemed that us and a couple of other teams had an unfair advantage. All that has happened is the the boundaries have moved and we have exactly the same result once again with 4 big teams and others that have little chance. So we either go back to how it was, or change it completely, hence option B been the only viable alternative.
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Erm you can"t have a Team Luton in a regional competition. But I understand you all play in one regional team, which if it had another team amalgamated with it would make it stronger. So again this is a misnomer. With my idea you would get 8 super teams, as opposed to 4 strong and 9 weak ones.
I"m sure Des would have the figures but, live events aside, I bet this league was one of the best recruiting tools of this year and it would be a shame to break that.
Curlarge:
--- Quote from: GiMac on September 17, 2012, 11:37:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Curlarge on September 17, 2012, 11:25:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: GiMac on September 17, 2012, 03:01:28 AM ---
Ok here is my tuppence. Personally I do not feel that those teams who made an effort to recruit new members to APAT and then actively encourage attendance should be penalised. Accordingly I would propose that some teams, who seem unable to get their numbers up, be amalgamated into neighbouring teams examples would be EMids/WMids, Ireland/Europe, East of England/London. Then numbers are more equalised. But if that can"t be done then option A is the only way that doesn"t penalise the enthusiastic & positive contribution by those teams who have driven up numbers.
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Gordon, valid points as always, BUT...the whole reason that Luton was disbanded as a team was exactly because of this. Waz was so successful in running the team that it was deemed that us and a couple of other teams had an unfair advantage. All that has happened is the the boundaries have moved and we have exactly the same result once again with 4 big teams and others that have little chance. So we either go back to how it was, or change it completely, hence option B been the only viable alternative.
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Erm you can"t have a Team Luton in a regional competition. But I understand you all play in one regional team, which if it had another team amalgamated with it would make it stronger. So again this is a misnomer. With my idea you would get 8 super teams, as opposed to 4 strong and 9 weak ones.
I"m sure Des would have the figures but, live events aside, I bet this league was one of the best recruiting tools of this year and it would be a shame to break that.
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This is not the case at all. Some of us have been put in the SE team, some in EofE and a few in EMIDS.
GiMac:
--- Quote from: Curlarge on September 17, 2012, 11:58:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: GiMac on September 17, 2012, 11:37:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Curlarge on September 17, 2012, 11:25:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: GiMac on September 17, 2012, 03:01:28 AM ---
Ok here is my tuppence. Personally I do not feel that those teams who made an effort to recruit new members to APAT and then actively encourage attendance should be penalised. Accordingly I would propose that some teams, who seem unable to get their numbers up, be amalgamated into neighbouring teams examples would be EMids/WMids, Ireland/Europe, East of England/London. Then numbers are more equalised. But if that can"t be done then option A is the only way that doesn"t penalise the enthusiastic & positive contribution by those teams who have driven up numbers.
--- End quote ---
Gordon, valid points as always, BUT...the whole reason that Luton was disbanded as a team was exactly because of this. Waz was so successful in running the team that it was deemed that us and a couple of other teams had an unfair advantage. All that has happened is the the boundaries have moved and we have exactly the same result once again with 4 big teams and others that have little chance. So we either go back to how it was, or change it completely, hence option B been the only viable alternative.
--- End quote ---
Erm you can"t have a Team Luton in a regional competition. But I understand you all play in one regional team, which if it had another team amalgamated with it would make it stronger. So again this is a misnomer. With my idea you would get 8 super teams, as opposed to 4 strong and 9 weak ones.
I"m sure Des would have the figures but, live events aside, I bet this league was one of the best recruiting tools of this year and it would be a shame to break that.
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This is not the case at all. Some of us have been put in the SE team, some in EofE and a few in EMIDS.
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Yes but this discussion has already been had, so I cannot see the reasons for raising it again.
As I understand it APAT are looking for a solution to the problem a few people seem to have which is having weak teams in the league format. I think my proposed solution, whilst not perfect, definitely goes a long way to resolving that issue, should lead to a more competitive league, thereby keeping players involved throughout the league and making it attractive for new players to join in.
Rather than raising previous issues and opening old sores, can we not try and deal with the matter at hand?
Starshine:
--- Quote from: GiMac on September 17, 2012, 12:14:21 PM ---
Yes but this discussion has already been had, so I cannot see the reasons for raising it again. APAT are looking for a solution to the problem a few people seem to have which is having weak teams in the league format. I think my proposed solution, whilst not perfect, definitely goes a long way to resolving that issue, should lead to a more competitive league, thereby keeping players involved throughout the league and making it attractive for new players to join in.
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I can understand your idea, but personally I can just say, that putting Europe now together with Ireland, will stay the same what I already said, I would not play it at all. Some stated that it is to identify with the region, Europe is a bit to big as a region to identify with, and it does not get better when now ireland comes to it as well. And honestly ermmm Ireland is not my neighbour region lol, my neighbour region is Austria lol, and a lot of parts in England are closer to me than Ireland
So yes I honestly think as it is a team event, that feeling sort of well in the team, and being able to sort of identify with the team is important, making the regions now even bigger, I am not sure if this helps with it.
Well I shall sit and wait what happens. I love the idea Sugarfree posted, even though I would say each captain can pick 20 - 30 and the rest be put in random.
If it stays with the old regions, I just won"t play, but be there as a cheerleader
Chipaccrual:
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
Announcement coming, errrrrrr, soon.
(I have been trained well)
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