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Genting UK & Ireland Home Int Team Championship
smasher37:
--- Quote from: TC1978 on December 04, 2012, 16:11:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on December 03, 2012, 22:48:09 PM ---
With a bit more tinkering, I think I"ve found a scoring system that produces a fair result.
If we leave the MTT as it stands, leave the STT scoring as it stands until the top 3, then reward 0pts for third, 20pts for second and 0pts for first, we get the following, much much fairer result
Team NLHEPLOMTTTOTAL Wales B464288176Scotland B627139172England B3329100162Wales A293396158England C2013113146Scotland A812112132Ireland A29778114England A41294110
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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A moot point. We"d still have won the heads up to take Gold :D
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indeed a moot point!
AceOnTheRiver:
My points, which I"ll try to keep succinct
Firstly, the best team won. No doubt! VWP & a great set of lads
Secondly. whilst I know people are just having a bit of fun with the "what if" scoring scenarios, they are irrelevant as the teams would have been playing the scoring system in place (Dave Howard"s point about rewarding someone for folding to 20th place is very valid for this discussion, but on Friday that was the system in place so to an extent was the right thing to do
A formula 1 stylee top weighted scoring system makes more sense and would encourage mare creative play (e.g. 15, 12, 9, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1) or awarding the top 3
Similarly (if the MTT remains) I would only award points to the Top 50% as stated elsewhere, once again top loaded
Steve has suggested ditching the MTT altogether and having more Sit n Gos, possibly with more variants? Is there a halfway house option of a 16 person Sit & Go (would need to have teams of 4 or 6 to work)
I LOVED the Heads Up play off idea from the offset and thought it was great in practice too. Keep it.
AAroddersAA:
Not much to say on top of what I said at the venue, great tournament. The MTT could have a little bit less on it. Loved the heads up play offs for this specific event, keep them for next years Home Nations and ECOAP.
The WCOAP is different though and I would not have thought the heads up play offs should be part of that. The best team should be the world champions.
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on December 08, 2012, 16:11:59 PM ---
Not much to say on top of what I said at the venue, great tournament. The MTT could have a little bit less on it. Loved the heads up play offs for this specific event, keep them for next years Home Nations and ECOAP.
The WCOAP is different though and I would not have thought the heads up play offs should be part of that. The best team should be the world champions.
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Are you suggesting that having the HU play offs means that the best team might not be the world champions?
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on December 08, 2012, 16:11:59 PM ---
... The best team should be the world champions.
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Do you mean like the football World Cup is always won by the best team? (or rugby, cricket, ....)
The only sure way to find out the best is a long and boring league structure, I think it might be better to try and veer even more towards a cup idea. Perhaps an opportunity for some real creativity in the way it"s set up.
For example in the stt"s having the first player to (more than) double there starting stack qualifying towards a Champions STT. As soon as this happens there chips are removed from play the remainder play it out with the winner of this sit n go being given a runners up spot to the same Champions STT. This would have a significant number of points available to those who "cashed" (top half maybe), whilst the remainder of the STT losers would play an MTT with points available to the final table.
It"s difficult to simulate what kind of result that would give, but it"s really just an idea to say that fiddling around with the structure of the team tournaments doesn"t just have to mean looking at the points allocations (for example).
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