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One Way Poker - 6th October Trip report.

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Zozzy:
ul  jason sometimes it just isn"t to be. keep playing the way you should and the results will come long term.
& thanks for the twitter updates.

j.p.:
Laggy here, my terrible squeeze was with Jacks, how did you want me to play it?

Swinebag:

--- Quote from: j.p. on October 08, 2012, 20:40:44 PM ---
Laggy here, my terrible squeeze was with Jacks, how did you want me to play it?

--- End quote ---


wanted to post on this hand, but refrained. Now that JP has confessed, I have a question for you Jas.

Given your read on the LAG (forget he has JJ), how do you find a fold pre here?

I know the OR called but you would expect that, assuming he has the same read as you. In fact, because OR has not 4 bet, this makes it even more likely that the OR is not crushing you here. This may be a decent spot to back-raise here, which given your image has a fantastic chance of getting the LAG to fold anything as good as QQ

poker_jason:

--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on October 08, 2012, 20:55:22 PM ---

--- Quote from: j.p. on October 08, 2012, 20:40:44 PM ---
Laggy here, my terrible squeeze was with Jacks, how did you want me to play it?

--- End quote ---


wanted to post on this hand, but refrained. Now that JP has confessed, I have a question for you Jas.

Given your read on the LAG (forget he has JJ), how do you find a fold pre here?

I know the OR called but you would expect that, assuming he has the same read as you. In fact, because OR has not 4 bet, this makes it even more likely that the OR is not crushing you here. This may be a decent spot to back-raise here, which given your image has a fantastic chance of getting the LAG to fold anything as good as QQ

--- End quote ---


j.p. Welcome, You played it perfectly sir.  I didn"t read you as strong as that - I thought you could be raising wider, you obviously got your share of hands. Clearly, my radar was way off. :-)

Rob - You make several good points. Happy to talk through if you"re at Sheffield or Bristol UKIPT.

In hindsight, I clearly gave utg too much credit (and JP enough credit to have something). At the time I thought this was marginal with both players in.

I was happy calling JP"s raise (I felt that AQ would play well enough in position against my perception of his range).

I felt the UTG min raise - call line was quite strong (it was a quick call from recollection). The player hadn"t played -raised many hands, not UTG. UTG action was the deciding factor.

I wasn"t happy with the fold - but it"s not necessarily the golden spot it looks like. (Although its a line I"ll always play on-line in the usual low stakes tournies!).

When I call I have to fold on a lot of flops when BB &/ UTG lead. I only hate my fold because A flops and utg folds faster than a rocket.

Don"t think I really considered a re-re-raise here - something to look at.

Perhaps JP can confirm if he folds JJ/QQ here (was stack ~ 20K?). UTG obviously folds now but pre flop before I fold QQ+ is possible. Unlikely but UTG could well have had QQ....I think mid pp/ KQs more likely.

Happy to discuss specifics off-line that I"m not covering explicitly above.

As I said, my Radar was off and I gave too much credit. I"m so getting 3/4 bet at apat events...... :-)

Swinebag:
Don"t think the fold is terrible btw. It was still pretty early in the tourney and it would be quite a high variance move to commit your stack that early with AQo. By calling you are committing a fair bit of your stack and folding on most flops so probably good that you ruled that out.

I found a great 4 bet spot last night in the APAT league game. J8

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