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Chipaccrual:

--- Quote from: mporter123 on November 25, 2012, 12:59:12 PM ---
I folded - on reflection, appears a bad fold.

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If your gut feeling was to fold, then nothing wrong with the fold, especially as unless the hand got shown, you won"t know if it was the correct decision or not.

deanp27:
I"d be jamming most of my range pre but as played is ok but don"t fold

Santino67:

--- Quote from: ian.ski309 on November 25, 2012, 11:09:21 AM ---
He hasn"t re-raised you pre so he shouldn"t have a better pair than you, famous last words. I don"t see how you can call his raise on the flop and leave yourself 2500 chips behind. It"s a shove or fold here with no reads. I"m shoving and hoping he"s got A9 rather than a set.

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^^^^^^^^this + what dodgy said^^^^^^

In a turbo especially, i"m flatting all day with a binked set here against a preflop raiser. Need to try and build that stack as much as poss with this structure so why kill the strength of your hand by raising? He could also be exploiting an expected standard c bet in this spot, with a dry flop it"s easy to assume you"ve missed and he can steal. My chips are in and licking my wounds if I"m behind.

MintTrav:
So we are shoving. And we are either winning against A9, etc or we are crushed.

And he will snap-call with 33, 66, 99, 96, JJ, etc.

And he will snap-call with A9.....T9. We hope. Or maybe he won"t.

If we stay with this hand, we are mentally committing all our chips irrespective. We can do this without actually putting them in. If they are already in the pot in our head but not on the table, we allow him to put the rest of his in on the Turn.

We are very likely to be losing here, in which case we have decided that we will definitely pay him off. But if we are not, and we are determined to get them all in, we are going to allow him the only opportunity he will have to get away from top pair (or a bluff). Admittedly, in this case, his bet-size does suggest that he wants to get everything in, rather than that he will fold.

[Please don"t respond by saying "And what happens when X comes on the Turn". We are already all-in in our heads, remember?]

Swinebag:
I actually think folding the flop here is terrible.

Given the stack sizes any post flop bet has to be with the aim of getting them in. Sure, early levels with 200BB it"s a clear fold but not here.

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