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APAT National Online Cup - Enter A Team
Fatcatstu:
Ok, as someone looking from the outside at this IMPARTIALLY (there hasnt been any of that so far, most of what has been posted has been bordering on Hysteria) I would say that Leigh has made it fairly clear that APAT are against OBVIOUS foul play ie the chip dumping example shown earlier.
Dont be OBVIOUS and there wont be an issue.
Am i wrong?
Laxie:
From another outsider looking in - you can"t honestly expect Des and Co. to be seen openly encouraging what"s being discussed here?! They"re trying to run a poker site. What"s being discussed is absolutely against network rules regardless of what we think and their hands are tied.
GiMac:
--- Quote from: MonkeyMagic on March 06, 2013, 15:08:53 PM ---
Well, if there"s no behind-the-scenes collusion going on, I"d be mighty surprised. When those people then do the moves that increase their chances of taking chips, that will be more readily seen by someone that can see the cards face up, than it can by the players. It"s not even like people living in the same town coincidentally. You can see instantly who has an interest in each other, especially with only 4 teams. Yes, it"s a team game, but telling each other your cards is not "just part of it". Of course, some might disagree, and have arguments for it. I doubt anyone will present them here though, will they?
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Please tell me where anyone has said that? I think you will find nobody has so stop putting words in people"s mouths. We are talking about soft play or chip dumping, you don"t need to know each others cards to do that. ::)
suzanne:
--- Quote from: Fatcatstu on March 06, 2013, 19:17:45 PM ---
Ok, as someone looking from the outside at this IMPARTIALLY (there hasnt been any of that so far, most of what has been posted has been bordering on Hysteria) I would say that Leigh has made it fairly clear that APAT are against OBVIOUS foul play ie the chip dumping example shown earlier.
Dont be OBVIOUS and there wont be an issue.
Am i wrong?
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Thats what we need to know, not just for the online cup but for league games too. Where do you draw the line?
The hand shown is chip dumping to the extreme but say for example player number 1 is on the button and shoves a short stack into a team members big blind who has loads of chips...he/she is going to fold aces there (or should) which is right and happens probably more than we should admit. So then sb decides to complain, they look into the hand and see what bb had and ban him/her. It was correct team play!!
My disagreement is not aimed at Apat at all. As I said earlier team games are on the rise as they are fun, the NETWORK rules need to be changed to accommodate this. This wont happen by sitting back and saying nothing.
AAroddersAA:
I am also wondering if something can be done for future team events, these events are unique in that you actually want to help other people in the same game. The game is also password protected so anybody entering knows the situation. Maybe speak to the network and see if they are able to give us some sort of dispensation on the team events. If it can"t be done fine but it would be nice to be able to play the event optimally from a team event stand point.
I do understand the gaming commission laws that BOSS and apat have to follow and see why this may not be possible but must be worth asking surely?
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