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Season Seven Discussion (Pre-Announcement)
Des:
It"s that time of the year again! :)
The pre season discussion threads often become some of the largest and most interesting threads of the year on the forum and I suspect this year will be no different.
The planning process has already begun and Leigh, Matt and myself would love to hear members thoughts on all aspects of APAT, and what you"d like to see improve next season.
I expect that we"ll largely focus on the live schedule and developments in this thread, but please feel free to put online on the table also if you"ve a suggestion to make. That aside, we will run a separate similar thread for online a little closer to the season starting.
In looking for feedback, you need to be aware of certain limitations of course. Main events need to finish at a reasonable time on a Sunday night, so if you say "can we have starting stacks of 25,000", then you probably need to make that a reasonable option by adding "...and reduce the close to 30m levels" or similar. This is just an example of course.
I"m sure there are lots of things you will want to put on the table, but some of the things that I"m interested in hearing your views on are as follows:-
Buy ins - Stay at £75? Increase? Decrease? Side events?
Festival style three and four day events - good? or too long?
Timing - An event every month, every two months, or four big festivals every year maybe?
WCOAP - Should it extend further with the addition of two day side events and an even larger main event?
Team events - Should we invite multiple teams from same communities? structure?
Formats - Should we be looking to include anything new? Should we run one of the nationals in a different format, outside of the WCOAP and ECOAP?
Registration - Thoughts on satellites, direct buy in via client, generic satellite packages versus specific satellite packages, should satellites packages include a contribution towards travel and hotel?
Seat reservation - Should this continue? If so, why? If we added a Paypal button to enable players to pay the 10% fee upfront, would this work? So players not taking up their reservation would lose the fee element of their buy in?
Locations - Overseas? New locations? For example we could take the ECOAP to Western Europe. Would players come, if destination was cheap and outside of holiday periods?
Commercial - To increase our budgets we might ask you to qualify for events at a third party site, or join us for a crazy night of blackjack or slots tournaments. Is this acceptable, not acceptable, would stop you playing, etc?
Awards - Further develop the medals? More bracelets? Differentiate between live and online event awards? Added value?
Merchandise - Should we sell stuff? Shirts, cards, chip set, card protectors? How deep should the range be? High quality or cheap? Would you buy high resolution pictures of yourself at events, branded with the event name, APAT logo and in an APAT sleeve?
There is a ton of other stuff that I can think of but I don"t want to limit your thinking, so please feedback / debate on any topic and this will help us greatly in our planning for season seven.
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Waz1892:
Will look to provide a much detailed reply to S7 - but my immediate thought is on the normal APAT events,
What is the thinking/reason for Day 2 (brag I"ve made one at last) start at 2-2.30pm?
Imo, this means a lot of hanging around the hotel/casino for most people who book overnight, and a later finish on the Sunday night, which is generally a school night.
Even for those that go home as they are local-ish, you"re just hanging around at home waiting to leave.
Starting Day 2 at 12-12.30 would help both ends. Despite a late finish on Day 1 of 2-3am, bed at 4ish, up at 9-10ish, to me seems reasonable, and better than the current situ.
Paulie_D:
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Buy ins - Stay at £75? Increase? Decrease? Side events?
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I"m very happy to the £75+10% for the standard buy-ins. £25-£40 for the non-festival Side Events is fine.
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Festival style three and four day events - good? or too long?
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The S6 ECOAP & WCOAP were fine with me. Spot on IMO.
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Timing - An event every month, every two months, or four big festivals every year maybe?
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Every two months + ECOAP + WCOAP worked wonderfully for me. One every month would really strain the budget.
Just having four big festivals a year would be my last option.
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WCOAP - Should it extend further with the addition of two day side events and an even larger main event?
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I don"t think two-day side events is required. There is enough decision making as to what events I can play already without further narrowing my options.
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Team events - Should we invite multiple teams from same communities? structure?
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I"m not in favour of multiple teams from the same communities (I might even extend this to APAT).
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Formats - Should we be looking to include anything new? Should we run one of the nationals in a different format, outside of the WCOAP and ECOAP?
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WCOAP or ECOAP should definitely include PLO8 even at the expense of one the Stud / HORSE / HU events.
Nationals as anything other than HE would surely cut the attraction to the local community?
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Registration - Thoughts on satellites, direct buy in via client, generic satellite packages versus specific satellite packages, should satellites packages include a contribution towards travel and hotel?
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Not really bothered on registration assuming that there is no currency conversion issue. I hate having to sign up for another site just to register though. I"m pretty much withdrawn from online poker so perhaps I"m not your target market.
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Seat reservation - Should this continue? If so, why? If we added a Paypal button to enable players to pay the 10% fee upfront, would this work? So players not taking up their reservation would lose the fee element of their buy in?
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I like it here on the forum...but then I"m biased as I"m here pretty much all the time so I get in early doors.
I don"t think Paypal will process "gaming" transactions but overall I"m not in favour of pre-paying the vig.
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Locations - Overseas? New locations? For example we could take the ECOAP to Western Europe. Would players come, if destination was cheap and outside of holiday periods?
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YES, YES, YES.
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Commercial - To increase our budgets we might ask you to qualify for events at a third party site, or join us for a crazy night of blackjack or slots tournaments. Is this acceptable, not acceptable, would stop you playing, etc?
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See my comment above about Registration.
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Awards - Further develop the medals? More bracelets? Differentiate between live and online event awards? Added value?
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Love the medals...love the additional Bracelet for the event winner. I"ve always contended that the live event medals are better than the online ones ;D ...no need to add a bracelet for those IMO.
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Merchandise - Should we sell stuff? Shirts, cards, chip set, card protectors? How deep should the range be? High quality or cheap? Would you buy high resolution pictures of yourself at events, branded with the event name, APAT logo and in an APAT sleeve?
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Reasonable quality shirts as long as you do my size. ;D I liked the ones we had for the Stoke Team Championships.
I wouldn"t buy a photo of me [/opens door] but I"m sure others might like pictures of themselves.
As you know I"m an APAT enthusiast so I like the existing product. The Season 6 event schedule and so on was just about perfect for me and I"m very much in the "if it ain"t broke" category.
Enhance by all means but I"m old and large scale change scares me. ::)
Sugar_Free:
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The S6 ECOAP & WCOAP were fine with me.
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As you seem to have an insight can you tell me how I got on so I know whether or not to bother turning up
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