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Cool spot with a marginal hand - how to play it
AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: Fatcatstu on April 07, 2013, 22:00:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on April 07, 2013, 21:56:33 PM ---
Given the frequency of his 3-bets, especially against me in this specific spot I reckon to be ahead of his range with K9 and I am in position. Don"t think I am ever folding here.
Stu - I was going to leave but was waiting for a waiting list to open up a seat for me.
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Ok, so i am definitely 4 betting now. He has been running you over to this point by the sounds of it, you figure to be ahead of his range, so why are we flatting?
As Glenn said, K9 is not going to flop massive most of the time, and i think that if we just flat we are just leaving ourself in a horrible spot, granted, in position, but I honestly think 4 betting now strengthens our hand, perhaps makes him fold pre and if he flats, we are in position, being the aggressor.
Dont see many benefits to flatting here at all.
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Not saying that folding is wrong mind, it could be right, just does not feel to be the right thing to do here as there is a dynamic and history. Also we have position which given the way this game is playing is more important than normal.
How much is the 4-bet we are making?
Bigfella42:
There is a danger you could out level yourself with K9. I know this as it can happen to me. If the flop comes K high are you prepared to go all the way with it? The aggro players have a way of getting people to stack off light and there is a danger he may be getting to you. I"d rather have suited connectors here.
Fold with a sigh imo.
PS - notice how I have become more cautious now that i"ve turned 50??? ;D
AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: Bigfella42 on April 07, 2013, 22:22:36 PM ---
There is a danger you could out level yourself with K9. I know this as it can happen to me. If the flop comes K high are you prepared to go all the way with it? The aggro players have a way of getting people to stack off light and there is a danger he may be getting to you. I"d rather have suited connectors here.
Fold with a sigh imo.
PS - notice how I have become more cautious now that i"ve turned 50??? ;D
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If the flop comes King High Vs this guy I am ready to stack off. Does this make a difference at this stage, will post the next actions later.
AMRN:
Not sure why the only option being considered is a 4bet here. Why not call, and play a headsup pot in position? On the button is the only time we get to play a flop against this guy in position - why waste that by 4bet bluffing pre? Save the 4bet for when we are out of position, and we want to get rid of him preflop.
Call, and outplay him post-flop.
Fatcatstu:
I have spoken to Rodders about this and said the more i think about it, the more i dont like the 4 bet tbh.
I think that most of the time, he flats, then donks out on the flop. If im going to war with him, i want more than K9 to do it with.
Cant believe im going to do this...
I think my range would be
88+, 10Js+, AJ+
Just feels like we need a hand strong enough to stand up to, what i believe will be the inevitable aggression on the flop, and hands that play well on alot of boards.
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