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AAroddersAA:

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--- Quote from: Des on May 30, 2013, 10:35:35 AM ---
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Could I offer an opinion that perhaps APAT offers a more personalised and community orientated service to our customers and for that reason what we offer might justify a premium fee?   Whether you view it similarly is very important and if you do, what a premium is worth is equally important.
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This is true, but I think the biggest problem is to do with attracting new players - you can"t tell that this is the case until you"re already involved with APAT.


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This is the problem. Maybe you are even asking the wrong people Des. Yes the apat community/regs will all agree there is a better personalized service and a better community. Thing is most of these people will turn up and play anyway (myself included). None of us are going to complain about a fiver. As Joe said the costs of the weekends dwarf this and the reason we are all prepared to pay this is that we see it as a weekend away with mates, a few beers a really great poker tournament and side event and some general R&R.

However I don"t think the above actually markets too well in the poker community if the goal is to attract new players (maybe I am wrong). What people are looking for is a good value well run tournament which APAT already has, the LPPL is a great tool for marketing this imo. I still think it is fine as an optional extra but is something that will be used by the community at certain events. Not something that will attract more new players to apat.

As this is something that will appeal more to the community then maybe something along the line of what Stu suggested is a better approach? Maybe an annual fee that allows certain benefits including reserving a limited amount of seats each year. Although to be honest I can"t think of what else could be added?

PHIL_TC:
Personally, I miss the days of the click fests, Saturday morning gone with 3 laptops setup and a mobile phone all trying to get a ticket for Anna for One Direction brought back some happy memories. F5.. F5...F5... Goooooooo!!!!.. copy and paste credit card details from notepad and pray :)

Anyway.. from what I can see the charge is optional, so if you don"t want to use the reservation service and take your luck at the casino then you can.

Using the above facility I"m going to guess that it"ll be possible to see a running total of "seats sold so far / seats available" and which events are looking at selling out and will I"m sure cause more seats to be sold and sell out quicker. If its on the home page. Even better....


--- Quote from: Des on May 30, 2013, 10:35:35 AM ---
The final thing I would say now is don"t underestimate the important of having a clear message on the home page with an instant call to action.  "Buy Now".  How difficult is it to buy a seat to an APAT event if you"re a new player?  Very difficult in my opinion.  If we go down this route then I believe for recreational players, it becomes easier to get a seat with APAT than with any other tour nationwide.

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This is a very good point, any method of making seats easier to get has got to be the way forward. I think the current way of doing it through the forum isnt easy at all.

All gets a thumbs up from me x

fandango:

--- Quote from: Joker161 on May 30, 2013, 09:30:44 AM ---
My view is that £75 is an absolute steal for such a well organised and structured event. Plus you get to meet lots of great people (looking forward to GX tomorrow!).

Adding £5 to this cost for a guaranteed seat and to give APAT, who, I assume, do silly amounts of work behind the scenes, is a price very well worth paying.

Also, whenever I get the chance to play an event, travel and hotels bills dwarf this £5 charge.

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This echoes my opinion .. paying what essentially is the price of a pint to secure my seat a few times a year seems a fair price.. If it helps APAT absorbs costs down the line and helps APAT to continue to run as it has over the past seasons all good..

bluebrid1927:
Can"t see a problem with it to be honest, happy to pay a fiver to reserve my seat as I don"t play in many of these due to the travelling so the chance to guarantee myself a seat in the tournaments I want to play in is more than welcome!!

ian.ski309:
Maybe if I chew this idea over for longer I might change my mind, but I tend to agree with those who say that this doesn"t have the right APAT "feel" to it. It feels too similar to the way that Ticketmaster charge you a £5 "delivery" charge so that you can print your own concert tickets off at home, or the way the budget airlines find innovative ways to add to their overall charges.

When there was a long debate about whether the APAT faithful would be prepared to pay reg fees, I instantly agreed. Then came the charge for team shirts at ECOAP and WCOAP. Now we potentially have a "seat reservation fee", I"m already wondering what next year"s fee will be.

We all know that money is tight and it"s a very competitive market, but several people have already suggested alternative methods of raising revenue in this thread. To add my own suggestion, I don"t think that the potential of APAT's range of merchandise has been fully exploited. Tee shirts, polo shirts, hoodies, etc - why not turn a profit whilst turning customers into walking advertisements for the APAT brand ? I realise that there is also the administrative burden of the existing seat reservation system and it"s not all about the money, but it just feels like it.

At the end of the day it"s only a fiver and of course I"ll pay it, but the only worthwhile feedback is honest feedback right ?

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