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Season Seven Seat Reservation
Paulie_D:
--- Quote from: ian.ski309 on May 30, 2013, 14:19:37 PM ---
Maybe if I chew this idea over for longer I might change my mind, but I tend to agree with those who say that this doesn"t have the right APAT "feel" to it.
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I know what you mean and, in general, I tend to agree.
However, APAT is evolving and, thus, the feel is going to have to change. Are we moving towards other tours/organisations...probably but that"s just a reaction to the market we APAT are in.
Times..they are a"changin and APAT should / has to adapt.
I"m not sure there is an ideal solution. I do think that the "membership" option is probably the optimal solution but that has it"s own admin issues.
I agree that the merchandising of APAT (clothing, etc) could be improved, perhaps by way of an e-commerce plug-in for the site but, again, that would, no doubt have it"s own issues.
It must be remembered that the APAT core team is limited to 3-4 people all of whom have "day jobs". They can"t be "All APAT - All The Time".
AJDUK:
I"d happily pay a higher non-refundable booking fee that is either forfeited or used as part payment for a seat.
People will then think twice about committing to events they don"t know yet if they can make.
Suggest £20.
It doesn"t generate any revenue if everyone turns up, and so maybe doesn"t solve any problems. But I"m sure no revenue would be rare.
Similarly, I also think using a poker client with a tiny buy-in as a reservation system could work. It is after all self-administering. With clever setting of when you can and can"t unregister you are able to estimate interest and also commit people beyond a certain point. If the price was a quid "to cover admin" I think it would be more likely to succeed than the proposed £5 would. Is £1 enough and does using a poker client cut out enough of the admin?
At the end of the day any random player is not going to travel too far if they can"t be sure of a seat when they get there. There"s no doubt that seasoned APATers would pay the proposed fiver, and some would probably pay £50, but they"re already "in the bag". The message of £75+12.50 this gives to the random player is not good IMO.
Jon MW:
Also if you don"t reserve and want to buy in at the venue
Will you be able to buy in before the actual event? Or would it have to be on the day?
If you can buy in before the day then it forces people to pay the money to reserve (if they"re not close enough to the venue to make it in person beforehand)
But if you can only buy in on the day then it means you"re suggesting people will have to pay for travel and hotel without having a guaranteed seat - the £5 may be nominally optional but it seems like a great deal of the time in practice it"s going to be mandatory to warrant the other expenditure needed.
MintTrav:
--- Quote from: Des on May 29, 2013, 20:17:38 PM ---
1. The administration of managing and amending player lists right up to the event taking place - this is largely driven by cancellations, which ran to about 20% at the recent WCOAP.
2. The lack of seat availability for new players, who may not be aware of our initial on sale dates - this is because seats tend to get reserved quickly, and new players do not often come back to see whether those seats have become available at a later date due to cancellations.
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Rather than a £5 booking fee in addition, what about a £5 deposit, that you lose if you cancel but is counted as part-payment when you pay the balance?
hi_am_chris:
Or the reg fee + pound for processing costs? The reg fee u then don"t pay at the casino. If u don"t play u lose ur reg fee
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