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Des:
It seems to me that while everyone is beginning to understand our wish to keep the events on sale for as long as possible, and our wish to cut down on the administration and to add a light commitment factor; player concern surrounds the need to pay an extra £5.

Has anyone considered that being able to book an event several months in advance would enable you to make a far greater saving in advance hotel and travel costs?

Now I appreciate a fiver is an additional cost for everyone, but that"s the cost of a sandwich or the Sunday newspapers or the booking fee to many shows or sporting events.  We have to rank equal to at least one of those experiences in your lives surely?  I"m beginning to think not and that saddens me.

Des:

--- Quote from: Curlarge on June 02, 2013, 12:55:48 PM ---
Had an interesting chat with Rob Yong whilst standing in the queue to buy-into the event yesterday. He said he couldn"t understand why they hadn"t just put an entry holding tank on their poker site and we all just bought in there, which is pretty much what I had suggested as an option earlier on here.

Seems it is do-able from their point of view.

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Rob said the same thing to me yesterday Rich, but it was the furthest thing from his mind two days, weeks or months ago. 

While this might be an option in some circumstances, those will be extremely rare.  And it brings with it the potential for lots of other business conflicts.  So it really isn"t as straight forward as it may appear. 

Can I just clarify on one other question that was raised a couple of days ago back in the thread.  Using DTD as an example, if players were reserving seats for a number of WCOAP events for example, they would only be charged one reservation fee.  If they are at the venue we know players are very much more likely to play the events they have reserved.

This isn"t about money for APAT, it"s about ensuring we operate as efficiently as possible.

TheSnapper:
While the post mortem is understandable I cant help but feel that this event was not your typical Apat offering.

Firstly we had the tainted ISPT history, we also had a considerable increase in buy in, combined, these factors were somewhat of a disincentive.

As for the £5 booking charge, I think it"s a great idea and carries lots of implied odds, I"m pretty sure if implemented it will enable me to make a decent profit on reduced hotel and travel costs.

AMRN:

--- Quote from: Des on June 02, 2013, 13:09:48 PM ---
It seems to me that while everyone is beginning to understand our wish to keep the events on sale for as long as possible, and our wish to cut down on the administration and to add a light commitment factor; player concern surrounds the need to pay an extra £5.

Has anyone considered that being able to book an event several months in advance would enable you to make a far greater saving in advance hotel and travel costs?

Now I appreciate a fiver is an additional cost for everyone, but that"s the cost of a sandwich or the Sunday newspapers or the booking fee to many shows or sporting events.  We have to rank equal to at least one of those experiences in your lives surely?  I"m beginning to think not and that saddens me.

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Perhaps yes for the rank and file APAT member..... but I still see it as a turn-off for the potential new members.

When I"m playing APAT events, I often have locals asking me what it"s about, and I do my best to give the hard sell. I always direct them to apat.com and the forum. If they arrive there looking for the next stop on the tour and are invited to pay an additional fiver on top of their 10% reg fee, I suspect that would be an immediate turn-off for many - they would simply draw comparison to their local tourney where they don"t have to spend extra.   OK they don"t need to reserve a seat and can take their chances on availability, however with the thought in their head already, the turn-off will be out there....

TheSnapper:

--- Quote from: AMRN on June 02, 2013, 14:33:36 PM ---

Perhaps yes for the rank and file APAT member..... but I still see it as a turn-off for the potential new members.

When I"m playing APAT events, I often have locals asking me what it"s about, and I do my best to give the hard sell. I always direct them to apat.com and the forum. If they arrive there looking for the next stop on the tour and are invited to pay an additional fiver on top of their 10% reg fee, I suspect that would be an immediate turn-off for many - they would simply draw comparison to their local tourney where they don"t have to spend extra.   OK they don"t need to reserve a seat and can take their chances on availability, however with the thought in their head already, the turn-off will be out there....

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I think you underestimate the value of a guaranteed seat tbh Steve.

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