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Season Seven Seat Reservation
Des:
--- Quote from: AMRN on June 02, 2013, 14:33:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Des on June 02, 2013, 13:09:48 PM ---
It seems to me that while everyone is beginning to understand our wish to keep the events on sale for as long as possible, and our wish to cut down on the administration and to add a light commitment factor; player concern surrounds the need to pay an extra £5.
Has anyone considered that being able to book an event several months in advance would enable you to make a far greater saving in advance hotel and travel costs?
Now I appreciate a fiver is an additional cost for everyone, but that"s the cost of a sandwich or the Sunday newspapers or the booking fee to many shows or sporting events. We have to rank equal to at least one of those experiences in your lives surely? I"m beginning to think not and that saddens me.
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Perhaps yes for the rank and file APAT member..... but I still see it as a turn-off for the potential new members.
When I"m playing APAT events, I often have locals asking me what it"s about, and I do my best to give the hard sell. I always direct them to apat.com and the forum. If they arrive there looking for the next stop on the tour and are invited to pay an additional fiver on top of their 10% reg fee, I suspect that would be an immediate turn-off for many - they would simply draw comparison to their local tourney where they don"t have to spend extra. OK they don"t need to reserve a seat and can take their chances on availability, however with the thought in their head already, the turn-off will be out there....
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You think they would be accepting of the transport and accomodation fees required to travel and play in a £75 event - as we all are, but not the £5 to book their seat in advance? Really Steve? ???
AMRN:
--- Quote from: Des on June 02, 2013, 14:50:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on June 02, 2013, 14:33:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Des on June 02, 2013, 13:09:48 PM ---
It seems to me that while everyone is beginning to understand our wish to keep the events on sale for as long as possible, and our wish to cut down on the administration and to add a light commitment factor; player concern surrounds the need to pay an extra £5.
Has anyone considered that being able to book an event several months in advance would enable you to make a far greater saving in advance hotel and travel costs?
Now I appreciate a fiver is an additional cost for everyone, but that"s the cost of a sandwich or the Sunday newspapers or the booking fee to many shows or sporting events. We have to rank equal to at least one of those experiences in your lives surely? I"m beginning to think not and that saddens me.
--- End quote ---
Perhaps yes for the rank and file APAT member..... but I still see it as a turn-off for the potential new members.
When I"m playing APAT events, I often have locals asking me what it"s about, and I do my best to give the hard sell. I always direct them to apat.com and the forum. If they arrive there looking for the next stop on the tour and are invited to pay an additional fiver on top of their 10% reg fee, I suspect that would be an immediate turn-off for many - they would simply draw comparison to their local tourney where they don"t have to spend extra. OK they don"t need to reserve a seat and can take their chances on availability, however with the thought in their head already, the turn-off will be out there....
--- End quote ---
You think they would be accepting of the transport and accomodation fees required to travel and play in a £75 event - as we all are, but not the £5 to book their seat in advance? Really Steve? ???
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Is it not more likely that newcomers might get introduced to the tour through their local venue, at which they wouldn"t have travel and accommodation costs though....
Paulie_D:
--- Quote from: AMRN on June 02, 2013, 15:08:16 PM ---
Is it not more likely that newcomers might get introduced to the tour through their local venue, at which they wouldn"t have travel and accommodation costs though....
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True but they can buy in locally from the seats allocated to the venue...so they wouldn"t need to reserve at all.
Or have I misunderstood?
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: AMRN on June 02, 2013, 15:08:16 PM ---
Is it not more likely that newcomers might get introduced to the tour through their local venue, at which they wouldn"t have travel and accommodation costs though....
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Of the potential new player market, would many even have a local event?
Sugar_Free:
--- Quote from: Des on June 02, 2013, 14:50:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on June 02, 2013, 14:33:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Des on June 02, 2013, 13:09:48 PM ---
It seems to me that while everyone is beginning to understand our wish to keep the events on sale for as long as possible, and our wish to cut down on the administration and to add a light commitment factor; player concern surrounds the need to pay an extra £5.
Has anyone considered that being able to book an event several months in advance would enable you to make a far greater saving in advance hotel and travel costs?
Now I appreciate a fiver is an additional cost for everyone, but that"s the cost of a sandwich or the Sunday newspapers or the booking fee to many shows or sporting events. We have to rank equal to at least one of those experiences in your lives surely? I"m beginning to think not and that saddens me.
--- End quote ---
Perhaps yes for the rank and file APAT member..... but I still see it as a turn-off for the potential new members.
When I"m playing APAT events, I often have locals asking me what it"s about, and I do my best to give the hard sell. I always direct them to apat.com and the forum. If they arrive there looking for the next stop on the tour and are invited to pay an additional fiver on top of their 10% reg fee, I suspect that would be an immediate turn-off for many - they would simply draw comparison to their local tourney where they don"t have to spend extra. OK they don"t need to reserve a seat and can take their chances on availability, however with the thought in their head already, the turn-off will be out there....
--- End quote ---
You think they would be accepting of the transport and accomodation fees required to travel and play in a £75 event - as we all are, but not the £5 to book their seat in advance? Really Steve? ???
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If the transport and accommodation costs hadn"t gone through the roof in the last couple of years anyway then I think you may have more people in favour. We understand that APAT is working on a budget but you have to appreciate that we are too.
I recall in the S6 discussion you were worried about APAT losing its USP with the loss of the reg free game, well as someone said earlier on in the thread you are looking at gaining a new one. In little over a year we are going from a game with no reg fee to a game with two.
I can see that fining people who don"t turn up having reserved a seat is never going to work, but how about not letting them use the facility of reserving a seat for a couple of games if they"ve let you down previously.
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