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Cash Tour Development - Finalise Format for DTD

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Swinebag:
Agree with Brendan that it should be stack size over profit to determine the final.

Generally,this seems a really clever concept and I hope to play one of these soon

SirPercival:

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Surely (and I don"t play that much cash) the answer is to MAKE everyone take their full buy-ins if they have them available at the end of Session 1.

If they choose not to put it at risk is then an issue for them.



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The problem with this is that someone who has no intention of putting their 3rd and 4th buy-in at risk may qualify for the final table then choose not to play it so as not to risk the money. This then prevents someone else getting to the final who would have played it and would have risked the cash. Less money of the final table isn"t good.

s4ooter:

--- Quote from: SirPercival on August 07, 2013, 19:32:17 PM ---

--- Quote from: Paulie_D on August 07, 2013, 14:51:39 PM ---
Surely (and I don"t play that much cash) the answer is to MAKE everyone take their full buy-ins if they have them available at the end of Session 1.

If they choose not to put it at risk is then an issue for them.



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The problem with this is that someone who has no intention of putting their 3rd and 4th buy-in at risk may qualify for the final table then choose not to play it so as not to risk the money. This then prevents someone else getting to the final who would have played it and would have risked the cash. Less money of the final table isn"t good.

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:"( lets not talk about this

SirPercival:

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Hey Guys,

Again, an enjoyable Leg 2 of the Cash Tour at Cardiff - and well done to the winners - but again, plenty of feedback, suggestions and observations from the second Leg to dwell on and consider for onward development.

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Well done to you too Mark, never an easy job trying to keep a bunch of poker players happy.


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Increase of Stack Allowance from £100 to £200

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Much better at £200 and people buying in for £50, £100 and £200 made it feel much more like a cash game.


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Allow Late Registration?

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Consider a deadline BEFORE the end of Phase 1 for rebuys to be used, or whether players wish to "stick" with what they have

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I think we are in danger of over complicating this.

Why not just have a "reload" period of 2 hours during which time people can join if they want as well. So the final 1 hour of the first period, everyone knows where they stand with respect the other stacks.

This still allows for someone to shortstack should they want to and allows people (locals) to join in the game after they have asked "What"s this then".


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Tokens for unused Reloads

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Yes. The introduction of the reload chips was really good, but please pick a colour that isnt the same as a £5 cash chip.


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Should Phase 2 players/Winner be determined by simple stack size or profit made

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Most definatly by stack size. As per the reason given above but also "cos it will tilt Dan even more  ;)


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Should the tournaments be incentivised more to attract more support/taken more seriously? Only real incentive for reaching FT is the ability to play for further 2 hours - Champs Fee not really (yet?) sizeable enough to be attractive

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Not sure this is an issue. Those that played it took it seriously. More would have played if they could have bought in late. Attracting more players needs the casino to get behind it before the event. If we had 40 players - other than added value, I cant see what APAT could offer that would be more attractive than £2000+ and a £400 bonus.


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Is holding this on the Friday restricting numbers?

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Moving it to the Saturday is a bad move IMO. Particularly as ranking points are at stake.
Is it fair to be denied the opportunity to play the cash tour because you are doing well in the main event?
Holding it on the Friday is not the reason the numbers are low.


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Straddling - Should this be allowed or not.

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No - would make the game shallower which is not good IMO


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Should Tournament or Cash Game Rules be applied

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Don"t care as long as we know what they are and are applied consistently


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If there are any other material items to add to this, please let me know.

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Running it twice? - which I am against as you could easily get a situation where "mates" reduce variance between them. it also slows the game down.

s4ooter:
I think it can be made easier for all involved.

Buyin is anything from £50-£200 with the remaining handed out in lammers of £50 increments that have to be on the tables at all times.  This allows everyone a chance to see what everyone else is playing with.

We want to make it a cash game, that has the tournament aspect that if you lose £200 worth of chips you are eliminated.

As for late reg etc i think its fine to a point, as long as it doesnt disrupt the flow of the game.  Players should be allowed to buyin (like a normal cash game) but we dont want to see more than 9 players on a table (8 is preferred).

Like the rule that with "x" time left the clock is paused and all lammers are then either paid for, or removed from the table and full ££ counts given thus allowing everyone to know what needs to be done to progress.

As for the night, i am quite happy for it on the Friday, means i can play cash on the Saturday too :)

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