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MarkTheShark:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on August 21, 2013, 07:19:37 AM ---
You know...like the Premier League...you win the most games, you finish top..you"re the best.
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Or.....
like the Championship, where you finish 3rd and can be 18 points clear of 6th, but still have to go through the Playoffs to get promotion where in past seasons youd have been automatically promoted!
Pros and Cons for both IMO - and you can give examples of outcomes which can re-enforce either argument.
But ultimately, the SNGs are for qualification - HU games for the medals - a la driving for show, putting for dough. Its the format, same for all, all aware of it going in to it, none can complain thereafter.
Very much looking forward to it - absolutely love team games.
Laxie:
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on August 21, 2013, 08:46:41 AM ---
Not for the first time I agree with Paulie here. I think we are both in a minority though and the heads up matches make for a great finish from a spectators point of view. As a player I would rather most points take it.
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As a spectator, I agree with the pair of you. I don"t like seeing the team who crushed all the way through, getting robbed of their rightful medal at the very end over a heads up match.
Pretty sure the fact it"s same rule for all is the only reason it"s not really been discussed.
Paulie_D:
--- Quote from: MarkTheShark on August 21, 2013, 09:12:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on August 21, 2013, 07:19:37 AM ---
You know...like the Premier League...you win the most games, you finish top..you"re the best.
--- End quote ---
Or.....
like the Championship, where you finish 3rd and can be 18 points clear of 6th, but still have to go through the Playoffs to get promotion where in past seasons youd have been automatically promoted!
Pros and Cons for both IMO - and you can give examples of outcomes which can re-enforce either argument.
But ultimately, the SNGs are for qualification - HU games for the medals - a la driving for show, putting for dough. Its the format, same for all, all aware of it going in to it, none can complain thereafter.
Very much looking forward to it - absolutely love team games.
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Mark,
Do we have an answer to the original points though?
What if the HU goes 2-2...what will be the deciding factor?
You already know my opinion :)
kohan:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on August 21, 2013, 07:19:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: kohan on August 20, 2013, 21:02:13 PM ---
paulie i went to player briefing link you put up and it says top 2 teams play h/u for gold/silver and 3rd /4th play h/u for bronze
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I know...the question was..."What if the HU are 2-2...Who gets the Gold?"
My answer was my opinion that the team (of the two) with the most points. I am sure APAT will have other ideas.
I"m not in favour of HU matches deciding medal positions...I would much prefer a simple "most points = Gold" system.
You know...like the Premier League...you win the most games, you finish top..you"re the best.
Under the current system, the much better team who have a monster points lead having won every STT could have Gold snatched from them because they lost by a single HU match.
That just doesn"t sit right with me.
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sorry paulie i misread ur comment i thought it was going to be an mtt finale
MarkTheShark:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on August 21, 2013, 09:53:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: MarkTheShark on August 21, 2013, 09:12:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on August 21, 2013, 07:19:37 AM ---
You know...like the Premier League...you win the most games, you finish top..you"re the best.
--- End quote ---
Or.....
like the Championship, where you finish 3rd and can be 18 points clear of 6th, but still have to go through the Playoffs to get promotion where in past seasons youd have been automatically promoted!
Pros and Cons for both IMO - and you can give examples of outcomes which can re-enforce either argument.
But ultimately, the SNGs are for qualification - HU games for the medals - a la driving for show, putting for dough. Its the format, same for all, all aware of it going in to it, none can complain thereafter.
Very much looking forward to it - absolutely love team games.
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Mark,
Do we have an answer to the original points though?
What if the HU goes 2-2...what will be the deciding factor?
You already know my opinion :)
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Certainly do mate - and as with all opinions - respected it is also.
I dont know if there is a precedent for this - but my view would be that if the Heads Up for either of the medals game goes 2-2, then the Team Captains playoff in a sudden death HU game for the win.
Id give the reason for this to be that if the team who has scored the most points goes 2-1 up, they have already won the game - even should it be tied 2-2 they would win by virtue of the points gained - this in essence makes it a dead rubber. You may argue that that is well deserved as they have placed higher than their opponent - well remember that may also have been decided by a tiebreaker - or indeed by the smallest of margins due to sick beat or the coldest of hands.
So i think unless a team wins 3 of the 4 HU games, the 4th game must count. And if it is then tied, its down to the Team Captains to bring it home for their team in the same format as has or would have decided the medal places.
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