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Should I be folding here?
Drewski:
Evening
Wanted to get peoples opinions on this hand.
PokerStars Zoom Hand #103701121136: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2013/09/05 16:33:21 WET [2013/09/05 11:33:21 ET]
Table "McNaught" 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SUCAEDI ($1.58 in chips)
Seat 2: Seerup93 ($5.73 in chips)
Seat 3: P-lifting ($5.31 in chips)
Seat 4: ChristoPloBe ($2.24 in chips)
Seat 5: logrel ($3.13 in chips)
Seat 6: andyhuk ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Dreinnn ($0.62 in chips)
Seat 8: Orlando I ($1.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Vitalina22 ($1.53 in chips)
Seerup93: posts small blind $0.01
P-lifting: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to andyhuk [As Ah]
ChristoPloBe: raises $0.06 to $0.08
logrel: folds
andyhuk: raises $0.08 to $0.16
Dreinnn: folds
Orlando I: folds
Vitalina22: folds
SUCAEDI: folds
Seerup93: calls $0.15
P-lifting: folds
ChristoPloBe: calls $0.08
*** FLOP *** [6s Jc 4s]
Seerup93: checks
ChristoPloBe: bets $0.08
andyhuk: calls $0.08
Seerup93: raises $0.24 to $0.32
ChristoPloBe: raises $1.76 to $2.08 and is all-in
Should I ever be folding in this spot?
I don"t have any info on the two players and I have only just started my session. Also I do not play online very often, let alone zoom, does the fact it is Zoom have any bearing on my decision here?
Also my call on the turn was to entice a squeeze from Christoplobe but I was not expecting the all in.
Drewski:
Apologies that should read a squeeze from Seerup but wasn"t expecting the all in from ChristoPloBe
dwh103:
A few points:
- Raise loads more pre. This is 1c/2c Zoom and the very worse poker players shall be found here. Wait for hands and then smash the hammer down rather hard. If opener is raise/calling 16c he"ll probably do the same for 24c - and that"s the very minimum I"m making it.
- You"re readless and have no reason to expect a squeeze. Your flat won"t impact the range of 1c/2c players anyway - it"s a "Have hand, will call" mentality. They"re not suddenly going to go giddy over an extra 8c and suddenly go crazy. If they"re going to continue, they"ll continue. You"ll make far more aiming for the donk bettor and charging a Jack or flush draw the maximum.
- The aim in this spot is to get all the money in the middle, preferably before the turn action is complete. No foldy! Definitely raise Christo on the flop - if you don"t you have a smaller chance of getting his whole stack if he has a flush draw.
Drewski:
--- Quote from: dwh103 on September 08, 2013, 00:35:37 AM ---
- Raise loads more pre. This is 1c/2c Zoom and the very worse poker players shall be found here. Wait for hands and then smash the hammer down rather hard. If opener is raise/calling 16c he"ll probably do the same for 24c - and that"s the very minimum I"m making it.
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Thanks. My first assumption of Zoom would be that the players are tight because they don"t have long to wait to get a premium hand. Based on this I was going to play loose. However based on your advise I guess I have that wrong.
I"ll see if I can find some good zoom strategy posts.
dwh103:
--- Quote from: Drewski on September 08, 2013, 02:06:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: dwh103 on September 08, 2013, 00:35:37 AM ---
- Raise loads more pre. This is 1c/2c Zoom and the very worse poker players shall be found here. Wait for hands and then smash the hammer down rather hard. If opener is raise/calling 16c he"ll probably do the same for 24c - and that"s the very minimum I"m making it.
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Thanks. My first assumption of Zoom would be that the players are tight because they don"t have long to wait to get a premium hand. Based on this I was going to play loose. However based on your advise I guess I have that wrong.
I"ll see if I can find some good zoom strategy posts.
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The weakness of most players will be overvaluing mediocre hands, i.e. peeling that 3bet with AJ, getting giddy over top pair. The simple way to exploit that is to have a better hand and bet big.
Doesn"t mean you can"t play implied odds type hands like suited connectors and small pairs though, as long as you"re disciplined about what you get up to. You"d preferably want players you"re limping/raising into or calling against to have full stacks, don"t go crazy with one pair, get in cheap etc.
For sure some players may go super nitty, if you have a HUD that"ll help over the longer term, but try to take notes if you get to showdown. Most Villain strategies will be straightforward and perception of what you"re up to will be low - you can vary your bet sizing too (big for value, smaller for semi-bluff, bluff c-bet) as it"s very difficult to get solid reads unless you reach showdown with the same person a few times. Your notes can then warn you off readable bet sizing if Villain is somewhat competent.
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