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JM 10/9 Hand 1 - Help he's 4 bet me - what do I do now ?

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Charlie44:
I"ve been 4 bet by a guy on the button who I have got 136 hands on and who has attempted to steal 6/6 on the button. What should I be doing here now ? If I flat theres $4 in the pot and I have $8 left.  Should I be shipping even against this guy on the button, with TT? What about 3 bet sizing, is that too small ?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: $18.51
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $7.45
UTG: $14.75
UTG+1: $19.02
UTG+2: $21.00
MP: $10.30
MP+1: $9.85
CO: $12.59

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Td Tc
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, BTN raises to $2.00,

Fatcatstu:
See. How far into his eye we can stick our cards!

bear21:
JAm


mmmm with a scone !!!

AAroddersAA:
Mike, you don"t make them easy do you mate? I think a jam here is probably bad though.

We had a discussion about AK in a similar spot the other day, it is the one on my thread in the Blogs section. Well TT plays worse than AK here due to the amount of times he has JJ or QQ. Quite often even people who are stealing wide and 3-betting quite wide will revert to a standard value 4-betting range.

Do we have stats on his Fold to 3-bet or 4-bets? With the lack of any further info on this hand I hate to say it but it is a fold.

I am not sure TT is actually a 3-betting hand here against this player. I would three bet a lot of hands against this player but TT seems OK to call, we will be OOP but we dominate his range. however we do not want to be 4-bet, being OOP sucks though. Hard to say exactly what is right without those extra stats. Three betting for value expecting to get called by worse and raised by better is probably OK.

As played - fold I think.

3-bet sizing - to 75c might well be fine but I like to raise to $1.10 when I three bet. I actually have no idea why but it seems to work. On a related topic, I am currently trying to shift my three betting position from the blinds onto the button as it is so much more profitable.

noble1:
ok just because villain has a high steal % does not mean that adjusting/widening your 3bet value range is correct...

Rodders points out checking his fold to 3bet stat, yes do that but also check his fold to re-steal% as well.. [also learn what is a high fold % and what is not]

on the subject of deciding how to adjust to a suspected aggro stealer -
if his fold to re-steal% is 75% plus then ask yourself this question ""is 3betting TT more profitable than flatting"" look at scenarios like this with the mindset of what is most profitable for you in the long term versus this particular opponent [along with all the reads,info and stats that you might have on villain or players of his type at this buy in level]

in the main against this type in the full ring micros i"d suggest flatting TT will be more EV than 3betting, even if your post flop skills aren"t that great at the moment just mainly having a fit of fold style on the flop if you miss will probably be more profitable than getting yourself in a pickle if you 3bet and getting called or being 4bet..

do your homework on learning how to adjust optimally [and profitably for this buy in] versus this type of opponent..
bet sizing - and why you choose whatever sizing
what you would 3bet for value - AA KK only
is there any reason to add bluffs - what range of hands would you do this with, and how often [as a adjustment to how often you think they flat a 3bet or 4bet you]
a flatting range versus this type of player - which would include AK JJ TT 99 AQ for example which are ok to flat [question for you, why would flatting these be more profitable in this situation long term with your current reads?]

and whilst you learn how to cope with a aggro blind stealer from the blinds it will also get you thinking how you can steal more and recognise when others adjust badly to it..

ps - having a stronger calling range will still put you in some tricky spots such as facing 3 barrels when the flop is Axx after you"ve check called AK on the flop and turn but this will only improve your hand reading in the long term..

loads more finer points to the subject, but get the basic adjustments sorted first would be my advice.

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