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Seat buyins and reservations.
AJDUK:
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Strong words but can"t disagree. Saying what no-one else wanted to say.
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You are right fella, the number of people I have spoken to who have been moaning about this is a lot but most people don"t speak up they either suffer or vote with their feet.
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I"ve mentioned it on here a number of times. Can pay, won"t pay. But putting up the fee for everybody won"t help the cause either. Your suggestion would make a standard APAT £75+12.50 for everyone. That won"t go down too well at many venues either IMO. Paying a membership fee could be counter-productive unless you restrict events to paying APAT members, which also in itself would be counter-productive.
Deal with casino"s/cardrooms that respect the value of the extra business they will do at the gambling tables and the bar. Having a busy cardroom/casino at 2pm on a Saturday/Sunday afternoon has to have a value in these cash strapped times, surely? Although in saying that I"ve never tried it and accept this might be a pipe dream.
Gup9y:
Fellow APAPers
The situation of the additional £5 fee to make sure that you get a seat is one that I have to let my feelings be known. Under no circumstances can we allow this to become the norm. By paying this fee we are allowing this to continue. We travel the length and breadth of the country to compete in these events knowing that the money means little but winning that gold medal or bracelet means everything.
We play because we love everything APAT stands for but if you want to take your trousers down and let them all get a free ride, then go ahead. I for one will be passing.
pables:
As I said previously I have utilised this service to guarantee a seat.
I much prefer the idea of paying up front in full early doors to guarantee my seat
I"m sure this will roll on
GiMac:
--- Quote from: pables on October 21, 2013, 19:16:08 PM ---
As I said previously I have utilised this service to guarantee a seat.
I much prefer the idea of paying up front in full early doors to guarantee my seat
I"m sure this will roll on
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It"s ok it probably wont cos it will get easier and easier to get a seat the more people they piss off fella.
Des:
There was a 16 page discussion on seat reservation at the start of the season and all the reasons that we went forward with it are in the thread.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=13851.0
Whether you like it or not the seat reservation option has been a great success. A number of players have played APAT for the first time because they"ve been able to land on the site and click one button to reserve a seat. The charge is there to ensure players don"t reserve without being fairly certain they intend to travel. And those that do travel do so in the knowledge that they have a seat locked up and can plan their travel and accommodation in advance.
Some players don"t want to pay it and I respect their views completely. Andy is a good example, he has played the events he wants to and hasn"t needed to pay it.
The money APAT makes from offering the service is helpful, but is not a factor in the grand scheme of things. Simplifying the option to get a player into the event without adding a whole lot of admin is what this is about. In fact I"ll make sure the £340.20 that APAT collected is put into an APAT freeroll for players who are playing in Glasgow, after the event. Furthermore, if you have paid the £5 fee for Glasgow and feel you"ve had your "trousers pulled down", then post here and I"ll make sure you get the appropriate refund to your APAT online account.
Not sure why such an aggressive tone was taken by Gordon and Paul, but you are way off the mark if you think this is a stealth tax or whatever. If you want to know why we did it at the start of this season, read the thread that I linked to. And finding you don"t have a seat two weeks out, when they"ve been available since July is no excuse.
Finally, if you hate the reservation fee post here. Similarly if you"ve used it and are ok with it, post here. It"s been running for four months now, tell us what you think. A few players have talked about hearing others complain about it....this is what this forum is here for - speak to us.
But do so in a civil tone please. No more of that aggressive nonsense above because we have never let that go on APAT and won"t do for this either.
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