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ian.ski309:
Wasn"t the seat reservation fee introduced partly as a result of a number of people reserving seats for APAT Wembley by posting in a thread on the forum, then failing to turn up ?

How about a compromise ? If the seat reservation fee is here to stay, why not make it a non-refundable £20 for no-shows but subtract it from the buy-in of those who turn up. I don"t know how much of an admin nightmare this might create, but it seems like it could be a win-win for everyone.

AMRN:

--- Quote from: ian.ski309 on October 22, 2013, 10:48:34 AM ---
Wasn"t the seat reservation fee introduced partly as a result of a number of people reserving seats for APAT Wembley by posting in a thread on the forum, then failing to turn up ?

How about a compromise ? If the seat reservation fee is here to stay, why not make it a non-refundable £20 for no-shows but subtract it from the buy-in of those who turn up. I don"t know how much of an admin nightmare this might create, but it seems like it could be a win-win for everyone.



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A non refundable deposit is preferable to a non refundable fee, and far less likely to cause any contention.

If the £5 reservation fee is here to stay, I think it should be opened in parallel to a direct buy in - people can then either pay the full amount in advance and commit to the event, or pay a £5 fee if they are unsure about whether they will play or not. 

The current system is a penalty to those that wish to pay in advance - both of the above options would overcome that.

AJDUK:
I agree with all the parallel fee option talk.

Since this is the first APAT that has sold out based on reservation fee I hope that some analysis is done on how many of those people actually make it to the game. If the event doesn"t sell out on the day it will be a disaster.

ian.ski309:

--- Quote from: AMRN on October 22, 2013, 11:19:03 AM --- If the £5 reservation fee is here to stay, I think it should be opened in parallel to a direct buy in - people can then either pay the full amount in advance and commit to the event, or pay a £5 fee if they are unsure about whether they will play or not.  
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Playing devil"s advocate here   :)   lets say for argument"s sake that there is a 120 seat APAT event. At 2pm on Monday (one month in advance of the event), the holding tank is opened for direct buy-ins at the same time as Eventbrite invite players to reserve a seat. By the end of business on that Monday 90 players have bought in for the full amount and 55 players have reserved a seat. It"s highly unlikely I know, but what happens then ? How would you choose which 25 "reserve a seat" players get a refund ?

Even if that scenario didn"t unfold, at some point during the month you could easily end up with more seats reserved than there are available. The two systems (holding tank and eventbrite) would have to be linked to each other to ensure that once capacity was reached they stopped selling/reserving. As far as I understand it, they are two totally separate entities.

MintTrav:

--- Quote from: ian.ski309 on October 22, 2013, 13:01:20 PM ---

--- Quote from: AMRN on October 22, 2013, 11:19:03 AM --- If the £5 reservation fee is here to stay, I think it should be opened in parallel to a direct buy in - people can then either pay the full amount in advance and commit to the event, or pay a £5 fee if they are unsure about whether they will play or not.  
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Playing devil"s advocate here   :)   lets say for argument"s sake that there is a 120 seat APAT event. At 2pm on Monday (one month in advance of the event), the holding tank is opened for direct buy-ins at the same time as Eventbrite invite players to reserve a seat. By the end of business on that Monday 90 players have bought in for the full amount and 55 players have reserved a seat. It"s highly unlikely I know, but what happens then ? How would you choose which 25 "reserve a seat" players get a refund ?

Even if that scenario didn"t unfold, at some point during the month you could easily end up with more seats reserved than there are available. The two systems (holding tank and eventbrite) would have to be linked to each other to ensure that once capacity was reached they stopped selling/reserving. As far as I understand it, they are two totally separate entities.

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Yeah, can"t see any way round that. ::)

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