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I didn't take my seat for start of a tournament- what should happen to my chips?

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MintTrav:

--- Quote from: TheSnapper on October 25, 2013, 00:48:05 AM ---
Would you care to elaborate on the difference, relative to the rule obviously?

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Not really. You know more about the WSOP.

GiMac:
Ok I think there are 2 differen scenarios to look a here.

1. Player is running late and contacts cardroom to advise them prior to the start of the tournament. IMO the chips should not be put into play until the player arrives, so long as this is before the end of the late registration/re-entry/alternate period. If the player does not arrive by end of late reg period a full refund should be made.

2. Player does not arrive or do not advise cardroom that they will be late prior to start of yhe tournament. In this scenario the players chips should be in play and blinded out fully. At the end of the day the player has paid for the chips and they always have value whilst they are in the tournament. Who is to say that the player can"t turn up 3 hours late? He could have half start stack and still easily go on to win the tournament. In short the player has paid his money and therefore "owns" his equity in the tournament. The argument about creating a dynamic is moot, as poker players we should be able to adapt to different situations and this is just another situation.

AJDUK:

--- Quote from: GiMac on October 25, 2013, 11:20:34 AM ---
1. Player is running late and contacts cardroom to advise them prior to the start of the tournament. IMO the chips should not be put into play until the player arrives, so long as this is before the end of the late registration/re-entry/alternate period. If the player does not arrive by end of late reg period a full refund should be made.

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Come on Gordon this is ridiculous. There"s so much wrong with it that it isn"t worth the time.

AMRN:

--- Quote from: GiMac on October 25, 2013, 11:20:34 AM ---
Ok I think there are 2 differen scenarios to look a here.

1. Player is running late and contacts cardroom to advise them prior to the start of the tournament. IMO the chips should not be put into play until the player arrives, so long as this is before the end of the late registration/re-entry/alternate period. If the player does not arrive by end of late reg period a full refund should be made.

2. Player does not arrive or do not advise cardroom that they will be late prior to start of yhe tournament. In this scenario the players chips should be in play and blinded out fully. At the end of the day the player has paid for the chips and they always have value whilst they are in the tournament. Who is to say that the player can"t turn up 3 hours late? He could have half start stack and still easily go on to win the tournament. In short the player has paid his money and therefore "owns" his equity in the tournament. The argument about creating a dynamic is moot, as poker players we should be able to adapt to different situations and this is just another situation.

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#1 is a totally unrealistic, but #2 is spot on

Sef:
I don"t think WSOP rule on this could apply to APAT. Blinds for instance are much longer in WSOP, refunds would be an issue in APAT tournies in terms of more work for the guys behind the scenes and prizes lost in the unlikely event the seat isn"t filled. If I could pay my buy in n woke up that morning hungover or something n thought "cant be arsed playing today but it"s fine, I know I"ll get my money back." Not much of a penalty for not turning up. IMO the chips should be in play from the start. If you have paid your money you have paid for a stack and a seat and that is what you should have from the start.

I played a few tournies where the chips are in play and if the player isn"t seated by the 2nd orbit of the table then they are a big blind every hand til they show or blind out. I thought that was a fair way as the player has paid and deserves the chips to be there but is being penalised for not showing up. As for dynamics Gimac hit the nail on the head... adapt!

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