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Smooth Calling A Re-Raise with AA

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tumblet:

--- Quote from: Kinboshi on May 13, 2008, 16:08:20 PM ---
If it"s the first hand of a deepstack tourney, shove it in.  Loads of people will call with KK and quite a few with QQ.

Happy days.

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???   ;D    ;D    ;D    ;D    ???

Roscopiko:

--- Quote from: Kinboshi on May 13, 2008, 16:08:20 PM ---
If it"s the first hand of a deepstack tourney, shove it in.  Loads of people will call with KK and quite a few with QQ.

Happy days.

--- End quote ---


Wow is that like 5 callers guaranteed? ;D ALL IN!!  ;)

deanp27:
this is purely situation/player/position/stack dependant.

works well against players who are savvy enough to know that a 4bet is usually KK or AA, but obviously you need to be aware it carries more risk than the standard rereraise.

but there are so many factors to consider when weighing this up that its difficult to give a generic answer.

but generally in donkfests that i play online i am just shipping it in. Live games that i play tend to be more cautious preflop, so i have to be more crafty, unless i have been reraising often.

mal666:
there was an excellent example of this play in an ept game where gus hansen made the inital raise in seat 2 with AA,the action is then folded round to the sb who reraised,
gus being gus instantly puts his oppo on a big pair(reraisng s2 out of position) so he smooth calls the rr, and 5 low cards later gus has doubled up,easy.
oh the sb had KK

BobFish:
I think it is OK to smooth call with aces providing you"ve only got 1 opponent along for the ride.  If you get carnage with all-ins from KK QQ JJ etc (as per earlier post), there"s a good change the Aces will be busted. 

It"s a 7-1 to hit a set when holding a pocket pair.  Therefore with 2 players in the hand, it"s 7 - 2 that someone will hit a set.  With 4 in the hand it"s 7 - 4.

In other words if you are holding Aces, with 3 other players all in with pocket pairs, it"s 7 - 1 you will hit Trip Aces but 7 - 3 (just  2 1/3- 1) that one of the other pair"s will hit the set.  And that"s not including things like straights & flushes which can also fall to high connectors, but are much less likley when holding pocket aces.

This is the problem with aces when you are playing in a Donk-fest and get multiple callers.  They are often beaten with much worse starting hands.

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