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s4ooter:
How many APAT regs went to Vegas this year?? Can"t be more than 20?? That should be a jolly surely, not a bonafide leg of the season??

AMRN:

--- Quote from: s4ooter on November 11, 2013, 14:37:05 PM ---
How many APAT regs went to Vegas this year?? Can"t be more than 20?? That should be a jolly surely, not a bonafide leg of the season??

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Does it carry ranking points?? If so, then this favours those with the deep pockets - not really what APAT should be about.

amcgrath1uk:
Assuming we"re looking at a 12 month season 8, I"d like to see something along the lines of...

May             WALES
June            LEEDS/SHEFFIELD/NEWCASTLE
July             IRELAND
August         MIDLANDS - DTD/COVENTRY/WALSALL
September    SOUTH COAST - BRIGHTON/PORTSMOUTH ETC
October       SCOTLAND
November     BRISTOL/MK
January        STOKE/MANCHESTER/BOLTON
February       LUTON
March/ April - WCOAP as usual at DTD

The thoughts along these lines are that every other event there"s something within a "relatively decent" travelling distance. There"s always the scope for one international ( European) event in there easily replacing one of the events ( or supplementing), one team event ( suggest January/February).

There"s a few additional things I"d like to propose/ask for:

1) Each venue to ensure they have enough dealers & valets to cope with APAT for the entire weekend. Especially if we are looking at festival type events - from a financial side penalties to the casino if they"re not meeting their end of the deal? Some of us are there all weekend no matter what, and just railing can get a little boring if there"s nothing to play.
2) As much as I adore Omaha, would it be possible to rotate the side events? Especially O8? NLHE Bounty, Turbo Deepstacks, 6 max?
3) Online - plenty of notice for satellites, online league in S6 was fantastic, to run in conjunction with the live events ( ie no league on the weekend of a live event), the $50 level for the online championships made them special imo. Also alternating the online side event to match the live event?
4) Sunday morning social activity - I know Matt has looked at this in some events, but if we can plan well ahead..
Football - 5 a side - should be easy enough to sort for one of the events
Cricket - T20, 10am start, finish by half 1 easy enough?
Pool - again relatively easy to sort?
I know the above isn"t everyones cup of tea, but will appease the majority?



Chipaccrual:
If I were putting together an APAT tour to last a twelve month period, I think I would go for something like this :-

January - Leg 1 - Birmingham/Walsall
February - Leg 2 - Newcastle/Stockton
March - Leg 3 - Dublin/Cork
April - Leg 4 - Bristol/Cardiff
May - Leg 5 - ECOAP (Major European Venue)
June - Leg 6 - Glasgow/Edinburgh
July - Leg 7 - Luton/Milton Keynes/Reading
August - Leg 8 - Nottingham/Coventry/Stoke
September - Leg 9 - Manchester/Sheffield
October - Leg 10 - Portsmouth/Brighton
November - Leg 11 - WCOAP (Nottingham/London)

One of the legs would become the UK Team Championship each season, leaving 10 legs earning points towards a overall rankings leaderboard.

I"d look to change the main event structure to allow for a Day 1a on the Friday night, and a Day 1b on the Saturday afternoon (maybe with the option of re-entry into Day 1b if you get knocked out of Day 1a).

This would spread venue staff resource, and allow the venues to run a side event on the Friday night, Saturday night, and Sunday afternoon, and at the same time, not leave the tour restricted to venues that can accomodate 200+ runners.

A matching online event with buyins around half that of the live event and 2 or 3 National Online leagues throughout the season (with more focus on the individual than the team).

Ranking points would be available for all these events, but with a weighting on buyin and number of runners, so it becomes more of an index across the whole season.

I like Rob"s idea of varying the side events, and I think the cash tour concept could fit neatly within that area.

I"d like to see generic weekly satellites into live events, whereby you can earn tokens that have maybe a 12 months expiry date on them, meaning more flexibility for players to satellite into their choice of events when they have the time to play satellites, and not just the few days that they are run in the lead up to an event.

I"ve never been keen on the additional reservation charge, but at the same time am aware that it is the best solution yet to resolving the balancing act of players wanting to guarantee seats well in advance, and APAT not having to deal with a bunch of no-shows.  I think the suggestion from Des to use those funds to improve the updating seems a sensible compromise.  I"ve not had to buyin to an APAT event for a good while, but am aware when I was booking travel and accomodation to work the event, it"s amazing the deals you can get well in advance, assuming you know you will have a seat.  If you satellite in, then when you use your token to buyin, you get refunded your fiver.  Minimum admin, and maximum flexibility for the players.

I"d also love to see the inclusion/return of a higher buyin series, somewhere around the £200/£250 mark.  The APAT membership is full of players that have experience in higher buyin tours, and plenty have had reasonable success in those.  Maybe played on the Friday night, to allow those players to then play Day 1B on the Saturday, or vice-versa.

Chipaccrual:
LOL, just seen Asa"s post.

Both of us clearly bored on a Monday afternoon.   ;D

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