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APAT UK Team Championship 2014 - Discussion Thread
Sugar_Free:
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--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on January 15, 2014, 11:09:08 AM ---
I thought this one was settled actually and APAT had said it is not allowed. It us a shame because it would improve the event but it is banned.
If this (paragraph 1) happens in Stoke there should be a severe penalty (player DQ as it is cheating). That is the rule and it should be applied otherwise it just becomes even more confusing.
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APAT did and so that is the rule and, I would hope, it will be applied in the unlikely event that it actually happens.
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Without having every mucked hand turned over for the table"s perusal and subsequent vote, who is to say that a hand shouldn"t be mucked?
Do we then get to the stage where after a team mate folds to a large post flop bet, we then need to check his hand to see if he really should have been calling pre?
Paulie_D:
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on January 15, 2014, 11:39:52 AM ---
Without having every mucked hand turned over for the table"s perusal and subsequent vote, who is to say that a hand shouldn"t be mucked?
Do we then get to the stage where after a team mate folds to a large post flop bet, we then need to check his hand to see if he really should have been calling pre?
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If it"s the rule (and it is) then only if the floor is called.
If the floor isn"t called...leave it and move on.
I predict there will NOT be a lot of floor calls.....we"re better than that.
As I recall, the only reason why "team play" in general was ruled out of bounds was because there was an individual prize to be won and players didn"t want any "team play" to affect that part of the competition.
While there are individual prizes &/or added value I think the rule against it should stay in place and be enforced when asked.
Otherwise, a full team prize with all "team play" options in place.
Talk to IrishTom....I think this would be a fun change for S8.
s4ooter:
Just win it with 30 or so left like the last few seasons. Easy then!!
IrishTom:
Guys, we"ve stated the rules that will be in place for Stoke - and as Paulie says, this is correct because we have an "individual prize" as part of the event (from my perspective anyway) - collusion, chip dumping and soft play can/will affect this and therefore anyone breaking the rules will be punished as stated - to be determined by the Venue/APAT Host.
I will look to discuss the subject further with Des/Matt post-Stoke where I will put forward the "argument" to allow "team play - within reason" (to be determined) if we have a team event from Season 8 onwards that does not include individual prizes.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 15, 2014, 11:55:45 AM ---
Guys, we"ve stated the rules that will be in place for Stoke - and as Paulie says, this is correct because we have an "individual prize" as part of the event (from my perspective anyway) - collusion, chip dumping and soft play can/will affect this and therefore anyone breaking the rules will be punished as stated - to be determined by the Venue/APAT Host.
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It"s actually not possible to identify the majority of times when this rule is broken..... if someone raises with AA, and gets a caller, then their team mate shoves, and they then fold their AA - how will anyone ever know that soft play has occurred? So, whilst having a rule is great, actually enforcing it is impossible.
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