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hi_am_chris:
I"m pretty sure if there wasn"t added value it would be a different decision. Could the worlds team tournament ever become the finale of the season ? Maybe a festival around it but without ranking points awarded for them

s4ooter:

--- Quote from: HERBIEHACKIT on December 16, 2013, 14:12:38 PM ---
having looked at all the comments on this, feel i want to have my say. team selection is and has too be the captains choice. to introduce a selection on ranking points is a joke. its like the fa saying the top 11 performing players on ranking or .... and these are the playings going to the world cup.
also a ranking system ignores some issues, like players putting individual events before country. shame on them, do you think a footballer who put himself before country would ever play for said country again?
A ranking system does not allow for players in my situation. when this season dates were announced they were a disaster for me as i am working all but the english champs (which i played). unlike most of you i do not get to select my holidays, i am told when i am off. having said that, i got a phone call from gordon saying he was finding it hard to get a scottish team together and would i play. now for those of you who do not know me. I have in the past had a successful motorcycle racing career, played football to high level and tennis at club level. I have a trophy cabinet bursting with trophies, including a bronze replica from the iom tt races. But just being asked to rep scotland was one of my proudest moments and pulling on that blue jersey well to say i was bursting with pride would be an understatement. As for receiving a bronze in prague, for me the greatest moment ever, including my tt success. so i said yes. i travelled and played in both the home nations and european games. in both these events i was unable to play the main events as i had to return home for work and i would do the same again. country before individual and if you do not think that way shame on you, you do not warrent your countrys shirt. as for me i would sell my soul to the devil for scotland.

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But this isnt football.

Footballers get paid per appearance

Poker players have to pay for appearance, and then have to earn they "pay" by going deep.

Play 1x comp with 3 others contributing to your result.  Small prizepools and turbo sngs.  High Varience and time consuming.

or Play the whole festival with bigger prize pools, and where you have a greater edge and expected ROI?


I can see why some would like to play for their country, i have recently had the opportunity, but if poker is part of your income, then you can see why some would choose not to play.

fandango:

--- Quote from: s4ooter on December 16, 2013, 15:35:28 PM ---

--- Quote from: HERBIEHACKIT on December 16, 2013, 14:12:38 PM ---
having looked at all the comments on this, feel i want to have my say. team selection is and has too be the captains choice. to introduce a selection on ranking points is a joke. its like the fa saying the top 11 performing players on ranking or .... and these are the playings going to the world cup.
also a ranking system ignores some issues, like players putting individual events before country. shame on them, do you think a footballer who put himself before country would ever play for said country again?
A ranking system does not allow for players in my situation. when this season dates were announced they were a disaster for me as i am working all but the english champs (which i played). unlike most of you i do not get to select my holidays, i am told when i am off. having said that, i got a phone call from gordon saying he was finding it hard to get a scottish team together and would i play. now for those of you who do not know me. I have in the past had a successful motorcycle racing career, played football to high level and tennis at club level. I have a trophy cabinet bursting with trophies, including a bronze replica from the iom tt races. But just being asked to rep scotland was one of my proudest moments and pulling on that blue jersey well to say i was bursting with pride would be an understatement. As for receiving a bronze in prague, for me the greatest moment ever, including my tt success. so i said yes. i travelled and played in both the home nations and european games. in both these events i was unable to play the main events as i had to return home for work and i would do the same again. country before individual and if you do not think that way shame on you, you do not warrent your countrys shirt. as for me i would sell my soul to the devil for scotland.

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But this isnt football.

Footballers get paid per appearance

Poker players have to pay for appearance, and then have to earn they "pay" by going deep.

Play 1x comp with 3 others contributing to your result.  Small prizepools and turbo sngs.  High Varience and time consuming.

or Play the whole festival with bigger prize pools, and where you have a greater edge and expected ROI?


I can see why some would like to play for their country, i have recently had the opportunity, but if poker is part of your income, then you can see why some would choose not to play.



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Think at the end of the day it"s a personal choice.

Winning gold for England last year completely outshone winning my previous 2 national titles.

The money wasn"t a thought, in fact I would even play if there was NO money to play for and only the pride.

If a team had to pay a minimal fee each to cover dealer costs etc and have no prize money I would even be fine with that.

Watched the Ceasars Cup earlier this year, and there was no prize money in the pot I believe just pride, didn"t stop Sam Trickett, and his team trying their hardest to conquer the rest of the world  :D

Fatcatstu:

--- Quote from: HERBIEHACKIT on December 16, 2013, 14:12:38 PM ---
having looked at all the comments on this, feel i want to have my say. team selection is and has too be the captains choice. to introduce a selection on ranking points is a joke. its like the fa saying the top 11 performing players on ranking or .... and these are the playings going to the world cup.
also a ranking system ignores some issues, like players putting individual events before country. shame on them, do you think a footballer who put himself before country would ever play for said country again?
A ranking system does not allow for players in my situation. when this season dates were announced they were a disaster for me as i am working all but the english champs (which i played). unlike most of you i do not get to select my holidays, i am told when i am off. having said that, i got a phone call from gordon saying he was finding it hard to get a scottish team together and would i play. now for those of you who do not know me. I have in the past had a successful motorcycle racing career, played football to high level and tennis at club level. I have a trophy cabinet bursting with trophies, including a bronze replica from the iom tt races. But just being asked to rep scotland was one of my proudest moments and pulling on that blue jersey well to say i was bursting with pride would be an understatement. As for receiving a bronze in prague, for me the greatest moment ever, including my tt success. so i said yes. i travelled and played in both the home nations and european games. in both these events i was unable to play the main events as i had to return home for work and i would do the same again. country before individual and if you do not think that way shame on you, you do not warrent your countrys shirt. as for me i would sell my soul to the devil for scotland.

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Very well put mate.

CW86:

--- Quote from: Fatcatstu on December 16, 2013, 16:27:16 PM ---

--- Quote from: HERBIEHACKIT on December 16, 2013, 14:12:38 PM ---
having looked at all the comments on this, feel i want to have my say. team selection is and has too be the captains choice. to introduce a selection on ranking points is a joke. its like the fa saying the top 11 performing players on ranking or .... and these are the playings going to the world cup.
also a ranking system ignores some issues, like players putting individual events before country. shame on them, do you think a footballer who put himself before country would ever play for said country again?
A ranking system does not allow for players in my situation. when this season dates were announced they were a disaster for me as i am working all but the english champs (which i played). unlike most of you i do not get to select my holidays, i am told when i am off. having said that, i got a phone call from gordon saying he was finding it hard to get a scottish team together and would i play. now for those of you who do not know me. I have in the past had a successful motorcycle racing career, played football to high level and tennis at club level. I have a trophy cabinet bursting with trophies, including a bronze replica from the iom tt races. But just being asked to rep scotland was one of my proudest moments and pulling on that blue jersey well to say i was bursting with pride would be an understatement. As for receiving a bronze in prague, for me the greatest moment ever, including my tt success. so i said yes. i travelled and played in both the home nations and european games. in both these events i was unable to play the main events as i had to return home for work and i would do the same again. country before individual and if you do not think that way shame on you, you do not warrent your countrys shirt. as for me i would sell my soul to the devil for scotland.

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Very well put mate.

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Shame on me indeed, although the fact that it clearly means waaaay more to others i would of thought people would be thankful i would have to decline playing for England (The fact that im in a real tough battle at the top of the poty with a great player for a vegas package presumably to you is irrelevant?)

Finally the worlds offer the one opportunity to play a variety of games i would never otherwise get to play (Only because of APAT i have ever played stud and razz)

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