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WCOAP TEAM EVENT
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: hi_am_chris on December 17, 2013, 14:02:23 PM ---
Could a format work with teams of six? Would it be that hard for Italians etc to find the extra players?
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Short term, that would be difficult for almost everyone bar England. Long term, probably best summarised by Rodders earlier in this thread...
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on December 11, 2013, 15:19:11 PM ---
* The player pool and situation England have is far from being the norm.
* the team event clashes with the best event of the year and by asking people to play in this event you are asking them to skip the majority of WCOAP. This makes it hard for small player pools to get enough players.
* a lot of the players, who have played in the past, feel they have now been there and done that.
* you really don"t want to be picking players to effectively "make the numbers up". You want all teams to be as competitive as possible.
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DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be):
--- Quote from: hi_am_chris on December 17, 2013, 14:02:23 PM ---
Could a format work with teams of six? Would it be that hard for Italians etc to find the extra players?
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Speaking for Belgium; right now this would be difficult I think... And as I said before, 4 is most convenient for travelling etc.
We came to Prague by car and stayed in 1 hotel room, just to make it as cheap as possible... and Prague is pretty cheap, so for London it will be more expensive for people to come over.
MintTrav:
--- Quote from: AMRN on December 17, 2013, 09:52:13 AM ---
Whatever process applies to USA, Malaysia, Belgium and all other non GB countries must all apply to England, Scotland, etc, and vice versa.
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Why? Anyway, some of those teams are made up of a small group who know each other and enter a team. How could they ever have the same process as the GB/Ire teams?
--- Quote from: hi_am_chris on December 17, 2013, 14:02:23 PM ---
Could a format work with teams of six? Would it be that hard for Italians etc to find the extra players?
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Without checking, from memory, I think the E/WCOAP teams have only twice gone to five players and have always been teams of four otherwise. The five-player teams were unwieldy and didn"t work as well. Stick with four per team IMO.
I haven"t seen any viable reason posted not to select the top four from each of the Eng/Scot/Wal/Ire player groups from the combined Live/Online rankings and make one of them the captain (highest placed?), offering places down if declined. Phil has identified the reasons. It rewards the players who have supported APAT and who who have scored well. It avoids cliques and selection of friends and mutterings that the team has not been selected fairly. It allows new players to make the team quickly without being disadvantaged compared to those on the inside track. I wouldn"t have any wildcards - all they do is bring in players who are known to the captain or did well in the past at the expense of those who have done well recently but are not so well known, which seems pretty unfair. Leaving the selection process as it currently is would mean that we will continue to see players near the top of the rankings being left out of teams.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: MintTrav on December 17, 2013, 15:31:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on December 17, 2013, 09:52:13 AM ---
Whatever process applies to USA, Malaysia, Belgium and all other non GB countries must all apply to England, Scotland, etc, and vice versa.
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Why? Anyway, some of those teams are made up of a small group who know each other and enter a team. How could they ever have the same process as the GB/Ire teams?
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Because having a mandate that applies only to one small subset of the event is not right. I refer to ECOAP 2012 where Eng, Ire, Sco, Wal, all had to play a 5 man team from which they could only have 4 on the tables at any one time, which meant someone from each team was always sat out, including the MTT round...... BUT, other countries did not have the same mandate, hence could just field a team of 4, all of whom would play the whole event. It was a somewhat un-level playing field.... and that"s what I meant when I said the same set of rules must apply to all.
hi_am_chris:
What does the captain have to do besides pick the team as things currently stand?
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