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Roscopiko:
1st hand of the tourney

GAME #1530206043: Texas Hold'em NL Tournament 2008-05-22 20:00:43
Table 168093872 (Tournament: APAT English Open Buy-In: $10+$1)
Seat 1: b2790757 ($5,000.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 2: BigParka ($5,000.00 in chips)
Seat 3: Unborn64 ($5,000.00 in chips)
Seat 4: mrejmak ($5,000.00 in chips)
Seat 5: Trademans ($5,000.00 in chips)
Seat 6: 5kinEm ($5,000.00 in chips)
Seat 7: DrpJaw ($5,000.00 in chips)
Seat 8: vorpal72 ($5,000.00 in chips)
Seat 9: Walwyn1 ($5,000.00 in chips)
BigParka: Post SB $0,010.00
Unborn64: Post BB $0,020.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to b2790757 [ 9d, 9s]
mrejmak: Fold
Trademans: Fold
5kinEm: Fold
DrpJaw: Call $0,020.00
vorpal72: Bet $0,080.00
Walwyn1: Fold
b2790757: Call $0,080.00
BigParka: Fold
Unborn64: Fold
DrpJaw: Call $0,060.00
*** FLOP *** [ 8d, 7d, 7c]
DrpJaw: Check
vorpal72: Bet $0,270.00
b2790757: Bet $0,560.00
DrpJaw: Fold
vorpal72: Call $0,270.00
*** TURN *** [ 8h]
vorpal72: Check
b2790757: Bet $0,675.00
vorpal72: Call $0,675.00
*** RIVER *** [ qd]
vorpal72: Bet $1,350.00

What are you doing in this spot.  I feel I am ahead but worried that he has bet the flush with 2 pairs on the board suggest he might have FH and is hoping I have made the flush?

Will reveal his hand and my action after a few posts..

Jon MW:
I had a very similar hand (overpair/flush combination) early on as well - I folded on the river because I assumed he had been chasing the flush.

Although in your situation there was also the full house and quads possibility to contend with.

I probably would have check folded on the turn, or if he had checked behind me than done it on the river.

But like I said I folded my hand in a similar situation so I might just be too cautious.

Roscopiko:
I too ended up folding the hand, not the toughest decision as I wasnt really beating anything after all and had no idea how this guy plays.

I announced I was folding 99 and he gleefully showed his  kd ah.

Don"t think I would play this much different if it came up again or should I have?

Santino67:

--- Quote from: johns41 on May 23, 2008, 09:43:31 AM ---
I too ended up folding the hand, not the toughest decision as I wasnt really beating anything after all and had no idea how this guy plays.

I announced I was folding 99 and he gleefully showed his  kd ah.

Don"t think I would play this much different if it came up again or should I have?

--- End quote ---


There were too many hands that could be beating you John so don"t think you did anything wrong. He pushed his luck calling you all the way as you could"ve had a 7 or 8. Given the cards that came out I may have flat called his bet on the flop and checked the turn (esp after he raised your flop bet). TBH the river bet looks a bit desperate to take the pot. had he a flush he"d probably check for fear of a 7 or 8 in your hand and had he a 7 or 8 he"d probably be more likely to put a smaller bet in to tempt you to call.........so I may have been tempted to call after putting so much into the pot already but it would definitely be a tough one.

This is why I much prefer table play so you can get a slant on the body language, facial expressions etc.

Your bad run will turn round soon mate, don"t worry about it & stay focussed.

Roscopiko:
The key points and information in this hand for me were:

He leads at the flop and I reraise to try and define his hand....when he flat calls I am inclined to go for some kind of drawing hand. Not bigger pair as I think most would defend on this board.

The turn is a v poor card for me in terms of defining a hand.  As he has checked, my pot sized bet here is to discourage a flush draw and again to further define his hand.  Possibly I should have just checked here or made a smaller bet to keep the pot size down?

The river being a diamond is not really a massive issue for me and initially I was going to call as the size of his bet did not really add up given the play before.  On some occasions/tourneys I would probably call but given the format I considered I would find a better spot.

I defo did not even consider he held AK here....hence the post

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