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fandango:

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--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 06, 2014, 15:55:55 PM ---

The main change from ECOAP is the replacement of the "2nd" NLHE STT with a PLO 08 STT.

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Even more gutted now ;)

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+ alot!!!

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seems like an extra rub down  >:( >:( oh well will have to enjoy the PLO8 bracelet tournament.

Chipaccrual:
I would have liked to have seen the three Sit n Go phases to have combined all three variants.

So each phase would be scheduled as

4 x 8 handed NLHE (2 players from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO (1 player from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO H/L (1 player from each team)

This would allow the captain the opportunity to make strategic decisions not only on team selection (do you pick a specialist who then also has to play a NLHE HU and MTT or go for more multi-skilled players), but also on the day of each phase.

This would also remove the fact that players will be put off by the PLO H/L element.  (I hear what you are saying Brendan, but I would add that there are plenty of really good APAT players who have never played PLO H/L, or perhaps even PLO for that matter).  I would certainly not want to represent my country if, for example, Limit Stud was included as a "must play".  I would be too worried about letting the others down as I don"t play that variant, let alone to a standard for this competition.

#justsayin   ;D

bear21:

--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on January 06, 2014, 17:51:58 PM ---
I would have liked to have seen the three Sit n Go phases to have combined all three variants.

So each phase would be scheduled as

4 x 8 handed NLHE (2 players from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO (1 player from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO H/L (1 player from each team)

This would allow the captain the opportunity to make strategic decisions not only on team selection (do you pick a specialist who then also has to play a NLHE HU and MTT or go for more multi-skilled players), but also on the day of each phase.

This would also remove the fact that players will be put off by the PLO H/L element.  (I hear what you are saying Brendan, but I would add that there are plenty of really good APAT players who have never played PLO H/L, or perhaps even PLO for that matter).  I would certainly not want to represent my country if, for example, Limit Stud was included as a "must play".  I would be too worried about letting the others down as I don"t play that variant, let alone to a standard for this competition.

#justsayin   ;D

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See what you are saying Leigh but to me a PLO hi/lo game is a great inclusion

About time APAT brought the game in , OK maybe for the team event a bit of a shock but I would like to see this included a lot more on APAT events and I"m sure other APAT"ers would agree also with other games like stud etc

well done !!

DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be):

--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on January 06, 2014, 17:51:58 PM ---
I would have liked to have seen the three Sit n Go phases to have combined all three variants.

So each phase would be scheduled as

4 x 8 handed NLHE (2 players from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO (1 player from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO H/L (1 player from each team)

This would allow the captain the opportunity to make strategic decisions not only on team selection (do you pick a specialist who then also has to play a NLHE HU and MTT or go for more multi-skilled players), but also on the day of each phase.

This would also remove the fact that players will be put off by the PLO H/L element.  (I hear what you are saying Brendan, but I would add that there are plenty of really good APAT players who have never played PLO H/L, or perhaps even PLO for that matter).  I would certainly not want to represent my country if, for example, Limit Stud was included as a "must play".  I would be too worried about letting the others down as I don"t play that variant, let alone to a standard for this competition.

#justsayin   ;D

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I do agree with this... as previously stated somewhere I think this gives it an extra dynamic.

And regarding the HU: do other people also think that 4 points is a bit too much maybe? Because the score is either 4-0 or 0-4.. which means there"s an 8-point difference between winning and losing! I"m not just saying this because our team sucks in HU or something like that (we won all 4 matches during the ECOAP so we profited from the big point difference), it"s just a thought...

Chipaccrual:

--- Quote from: bear21 on January 06, 2014, 19:53:05 PM ---

--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on January 06, 2014, 17:51:58 PM ---
I would have liked to have seen the three Sit n Go phases to have combined all three variants.

So each phase would be scheduled as

4 x 8 handed NLHE (2 players from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO (1 player from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO H/L (1 player from each team)

This would allow the captain the opportunity to make strategic decisions not only on team selection (do you pick a specialist who then also has to play a NLHE HU and MTT or go for more multi-skilled players), but also on the day of each phase.

This would also remove the fact that players will be put off by the PLO H/L element.  (I hear what you are saying Brendan, but I would add that there are plenty of really good APAT players who have never played PLO H/L, or perhaps even PLO for that matter).  I would certainly not want to represent my country if, for example, Limit Stud was included as a "must play".  I would be too worried about letting the others down as I don"t play that variant, let alone to a standard for this competition.

#justsayin   ;D

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See what you are saying Leigh but to me a PLO hi/lo game is a great inclusion

About time APAT brought the game in , OK maybe for the team event a bit of a shock but I would like to see this included a lot more on APAT events and I"m sure other APAT"ers would agree also with other games like stud etc

well done !!

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Gary, you might have missed my point. I agree with you, it"s a great inclusion, but using the structure I have suggested means no one is put off from trying to get to play for their country.

Unless of course the view is that there"s only a small bunch of players in contention for their country and it"s assumed that they all know their stuff.

I wonder how many of the top players in the rankings over the years would say that they were competent at PLO8 ?

Let"s include it, but not at a cost of putting players off.

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