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kohan:

--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 08, 2014, 09:14:18 AM ---
APAT have always aimed to be forward-looking and a driving force behind not only the playing of poker, but the development of both opportunities and experiences - and not wishing to stand still, see the introduction of other variants to our Team Championship events as a step in the right "forward" direction.  However, of course we do recognise the problems it may give to Team Captains and we need to ensure that player availability (and skills) is not restricted to the point where it deters teams from entering - therefore "one step at a time" is an approach that may well suit "both sides".

NLHE will always remain the core of our events (some would say!) and PLO has very much become a "main stream event" nowadays (some would say!), and to include PLO 08 into the WCOAP Team Championship, whilst reducing the "risk" to teams/captains, the following schedule would seem sensible:

17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.1 NLHE STT (3 members)  
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.2 PLO 08 STT (1 member)  
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.3 HU Matches (4 members)

18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.4 NLHE STT (3 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.5 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.6 NLHE MTT (4 member)

(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)

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based on the above timea most of the team players would be able to enter the horse event at 7 pm as the stt and heads up could be finisned by then

GiMac:

--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 08, 2014, 09:14:18 AM ---
APAT have always aimed to be forward-looking and a driving force behind not only the playing of poker, but the development of both opportunities and experiences - and not wishing to stand still, see the introduction of other variants to our Team Championship events as a step in the right "forward" direction.  However, of course we do recognise the problems it may give to Team Captains and we need to ensure that player availability (and skills) is not restricted to the point where it deters teams from entering - therefore "one step at a time" is an approach that may well suit "both sides".

NLHE will always remain the core of our events (some would say!) and PLO has very much become a "main stream event" nowadays (some would say!), and to include PLO 08 into the WCOAP Team Championship, whilst reducing the "risk" to teams/captains, the following schedule would seem sensible:

17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.1 NLHE STT (3 members)  
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.2 PLO 08 STT (1 member)  
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.3 HU Matches (4 members)

18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.4 NLHE STT (3 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.5 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.6 NLHE MTT (4 member)

(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)

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Not really interested in travelling and paying a fortune to play parts of an event. I don"t understand why its being changed? As a team we (Scotland) were woeful at the Home Nations in the PLO round, so we went home worked at our game and guess what? We improved and were one of the best in Prague. This is the world TEAM champs, not the Champs of individual specialists clubbing together. Win as a team, fall as a team imho.

IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!

CW86:

--- Quote from: GiMac on January 09, 2014, 18:05:29 PM ---

--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 08, 2014, 09:14:18 AM ---
APAT have always aimed to be forward-looking and a driving force behind not only the playing of poker, but the development of both opportunities and experiences - and not wishing to stand still, see the introduction of other variants to our Team Championship events as a step in the right "forward" direction.  However, of course we do recognise the problems it may give to Team Captains and we need to ensure that player availability (and skills) is not restricted to the point where it deters teams from entering - therefore "one step at a time" is an approach that may well suit "both sides".

NLHE will always remain the core of our events (some would say!) and PLO has very much become a "main stream event" nowadays (some would say!), and to include PLO 08 into the WCOAP Team Championship, whilst reducing the "risk" to teams/captains, the following schedule would seem sensible:

17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.1 NLHE STT (3 members)  
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.2 PLO 08 STT (1 member)  
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.3 HU Matches (4 members)

18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.4 NLHE STT (3 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.5 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.6 NLHE MTT (4 member)

(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)

--- End quote ---




Not really interested in travelling and paying a fortune to play parts of an event. I don"t understand why its being changed? As a team we (Scotland) were woeful at the Home Nations in the PLO round, so we went home worked at our game and guess what? We improved and were one of the best in Prague. This is the world TEAM champs, not the Champs of individual specialists clubbing together. Win as a team, fall as a team imho.

IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!

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Shouldn"t a team event include the best players/specialists, otherwise it does lack some credibility no?

GiMac:

--- Quote from: CW86 on January 09, 2014, 18:47:57 PM ---

--- Quote from: GiMac on January 09, 2014, 18:05:29 PM ---

--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 08, 2014, 09:14:18 AM ---
APAT have always aimed to be forward-looking and a driving force behind not only the playing of poker, but the development of both opportunities and experiences - and not wishing to stand still, see the introduction of other variants to our Team Championship events as a step in the right "forward" direction.  However, of course we do recognise the problems it may give to Team Captains and we need to ensure that player availability (and skills) is not restricted to the point where it deters teams from entering - therefore "one step at a time" is an approach that may well suit "both sides".

NLHE will always remain the core of our events (some would say!) and PLO has very much become a "main stream event" nowadays (some would say!), and to include PLO 08 into the WCOAP Team Championship, whilst reducing the "risk" to teams/captains, the following schedule would seem sensible:

17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.1 NLHE STT (3 members)  
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.2 PLO 08 STT (1 member)  
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.3 HU Matches (4 members)

18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.4 NLHE STT (3 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.5 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.6 NLHE MTT (4 member)

(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)

--- End quote ---




Not really interested in travelling and paying a fortune to play parts of an event. I don"t understand why its being changed? As a team we (Scotland) were woeful at the Home Nations in the PLO round, so we went home worked at our game and guess what? We improved and were one of the best in Prague. This is the world TEAM champs, not the Champs of individual specialists clubbing together. Win as a team, fall as a team imho.

IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!

--- End quote ---


Shouldn"t a team event include the best players/specialists, otherwise it does lack some credibility no?

--- End quote ---



Fair point but imo should be best overall poker players not a group of individual specialists. Also by diminishing the value of the event to the players, i.e. Less play for your buck, it makes it less attractive for players to attend. Even more in an event where its just about the most expensive to attend.

TheSnapper:

--- Quote from: CW86 on January 09, 2014, 18:47:57 PM ---

Shouldn"t a team event include the best players/specialists, otherwise it does lack some credibility no?


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With the greatest respect Chris.

This event has never lacked credibility, quite the opposite and to imply as much falls somewhere between naive and complete nonsense.

There is a lot of small picture thinking and self interest itt imho. I really don"t think the previous introduction of PLO did much to enhance the event over the previous format.

I am fearful that this new development which at face value looks positive in terms of adding some strategic element, may ultimately be problematic for the already struggling smaller teams. Losing some of those teams or diminishing their ability to compete will be counter productive for all.

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