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nosey-p:
Cash
Since I started playing poker, I have played tournaments. I play STT with the profit I then enter MTT and what ever I win in the MTT, that's my profit. If I have a big win then I try the cash tables, were I go and lose and lose and lose some more. So I go back to MTT's until I have another big win than I will put my toes back in the cash pond only to get them bit off again
A few people keep telling me that my style of game should suite the cash game so this week with me being off work I decided to give cash another go. So I put aside $100 and hit the tables.
Rules
Buy-in $25 (0.10/.25)
Play 2 tables at a time
If I lose a buy-in, not to reload
Only play for 2 hours in one session
Not to play drawing hands pre flop (i.e. 87s) in any position
Not to play in first 3 positions unless I have AA, KK, QQ, AK
If I hit the flop, bet out, don't give free cards
If I miss the flop, the hand is dead, unless I get big odds to call
NEVER NEVER BLUFF even if I think I could get it through
So far I have had 5 sessions (10 hours) 2 loosing and 3 winning. After I finish a session I have been making notes on the session, how I played, what I did wrong, what I did right, and any key hands. One of the losing sessions I had AK 5 times which all lost and KK which lost to 6,8 (all on the same table). But the pleasing thing for me was that I only lost $10. All in all without going into too much detail, I am up $78. So that's $7.80 per hour in profit.
My aim is to get to $500 before I move up a level but as I only play at the weekends, this may take some time.
I know this is a very small sample and I will need to play at least 100+ hours before I can get a true reflection.
Any thoughts on my rules?
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: nosey-p on September 13, 2009, 13:20:59 PM ---
Cash
Since I started playing poker, I have played tournaments. I play STT with the profit I then enter MTT and what ever I win in the MTT, that's my profit. If I have a big win then I try the cash tables, were I go and lose and lose and lose some more. So I go back to MTT's until I have another big win than I will put my toes back in the cash pond only to get them bit off again
A few people keep telling me that my style of game should suite the cash game so this week with me being off work I decided to give cash another go. So I put aside $100 and hit the tables.
Rules
Buy-in $25 (0.10/.25)
Play 2 tables at a time
If I lose a buy-in, not to reload
Only play for 2 hours in one session
Not to play drawing hands pre flop (i.e. 87s) in any position
Not to play in first 3 positions unless I have AA, KK, QQ, AK
If I hit the flop, bet out, don't give free cards
If I miss the flop, the hand is dead, unless I get big odds to call
NEVER NEVER BLUFF even if I think I could get it through
So far I have had 5 sessions (10 hours) 2 loosing and 3 winning. After I finish a session I have been making notes on the session, how I played, what I did wrong, what I did right, and any key hands. One of the losing sessions I had AK 5 times which all lost and KK which lost to 6,8 (all on the same table). But the pleasing thing for me was that I only lost $10. All in all without going into too much detail, I am up $78. So that's $7.80 per hour in profit.
My aim is to get to $500 before I move up a level but as I only play at the weekends, this may take some time.
I know this is a very small sample and I will need to play at least 100+ hours before I can get a true reflection.
Any thoughts on my rules?
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Great that your trying real poker for a while Wayne. ;D
I would suggest your $100 bankroll is a bit low for 10c/25c. I would either have a roll of $250 or move down to 5/10c. $500 sounds right for 25c/50c
2 tables is good. Certainly most people tell me no more than 4 if you want to improve. I was playing up to 10 but it was very much to a formula and not enjoyable any more. I now play between 2 and 4.
Not re-loading seems reflective of your bankroll / level. Dropping down would allow reloads after bad beats. If you are getting your money in good you want to stay at the table.
Not playing suited connectors might make you a bit predictable but I can see your logic
First 3 positions need strong hands
Betting out after the flop is good but you may need to mix it up a bit and c bet when you miss as well. Remember you will miss most flops - but so will they!
Didn"t think you bluffed in MTT either ;)
1 final thing - GET POKERTRACKER ;D
all IMHO of course.
Stuart
nosey-p:
0.05c/0.10c seem to get more bad beats at this level as more people will call with anything.
Not to reload, See scared money. I do have a bigger bank roll than $100 but giving me a limit makes me focus.
Mixing it up, most tables I have played on, the players come and go so the turnover of players is high and therefore don't get a reed on me.
I NEVER BLUFF
I only play about 4/5 hours a week, plus I play for the fun and trying to beat my opponents, having pokertracker is like keeping an ace up your sleeve (cheating ::)) if I played more or if I did this for a living then yes pokertracker would be a must.
What is a good $ per hour for this level? I was aiming for $10
nosey-p:
A quick update on how my cash adventure is going.
Not played much, just played 17 hours over a month.
$180 in profit so that's around $10.50 an hour which is what I was aiming for.
At one stage I was up $220 and got a bit cocky so I started to play 4 tables which were against one of my rules. But after losing around $60 in one session I soon reverted back to 2 tables and back to winning ways.
Overall I don't like cash I don't get the same buzz as going all in on a bluff (which I never do) in a tournament and getting your opponent to lay down there hand. But if I keep winning at over $10 an hour then I will stick with it for now.
Should I be moving up to $0.25/$0.50 or is it too soon?
Played some live poker this weekend which is a rarity for me. Visited Alea in Leeds for the forth time at cashed for the third time, ok it was not as big cash just my buy-in back but can not complain. Then I played at the Gala and got my Aces bustard (live poker so rigged)
Cashed for over $600 on PS finished in 5th my pocket kings v's A 10. 1st place paying $2600 which would have been nice as I have just got a garage bill for £900
coprey:
--- Quote from: nosey-p on July 11, 2009, 12:52:04 PM ---
Scared money
I now have entered the Welsh Championships with my last $55 knowing if I lose then that's it for me with BS and APAT on-line games. So how do I play? Do I play my normal game or do I play scared? Which ever way you look at it, the result is that I came in the money, so my love of Blue Square is extended for now.
A few weeks go by, with no luck at the tables on BS (strange that the other 3 sites I play on, I am in profit). Down to my last $11 again, I enter game 5 of the league. Again knowing that this could be my last game. Do I play my normal game or do I play scared? The result is that I go on and win.
A couple of months go by and my BS account gets down to $11 yet again. My APAT life is on the line in game 11, which again I go on to win. Is this just a coincidence that when I need to win I do? Is it just variance? Or am I concentrating more knowing it could be my last game?
About two years ago I went through a very bad patch. One of the things I did, to try and get out of it was to play at a higher level than I normally do. I did not make any money at this level but it did make me concentrate more, why? When I dropped back down to my normal level, my game had improved and I was winning again.
So should you play with scared money?
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It has been said that scared money is dead money, and I would generally agree. Playing scared, IMO, is when the money you can potentially lose has a great deal of importance to you. I could imagine a situation where I am on the bubble in the WSOP, for perhaps $25,000. I could imagine myself playing scared through each money level.
I find it difficult to imagine how playing $55 or $11 could ever fall into the caregory of playing scared. It may have busted your bankroll on blue square, but you can still play other sites or even break your own rules again and reload.
Playing at 25c/50c id recommend a slightly larger bankroll than $500, perhaps $750 - $1000. A bad cash run can be very expensive esp when playing above your limits.
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