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APAT UK Team Championship Online Event - Sunday 23.2.14 @8pm.
Matt D:
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Fish with Chips missing from team placings
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ty :) Was an HTML [ TR ] [ TD ] etc. error thingy. Fixed now :)
ShoveOnMe:
Hi all,
First chance I"ve had to log on today and first and foremost I would like to say a big thank you to APAT for yet another well run event. Be it live or online, you do seem to get things spot on each and every time and all of us at LBPN sincerely appreciate the time and effort you put into supporting grass roots poker.
LBPN (Lee Barrett"s Poker NETWORK - sorry to be pedantic) has been around for some time now and we"ve entered a number of your live team events up to press, but this is the first online event that we"ve participated in and I"m really glad we did. For me personally this is a massive achievement, as I honestly believe that LBPN has developed a number of players from novice level up to a high standard through a regular well attended grass roots league! It may seem a bit weird and self-indulgent to some, but LBPN is a baby to me and at the moment I"m like a really proud Daddy, lol!
Anyway, enough of that sentimental claptrap, I just want to say thanks to my team members for their efforts last night, it really was a monumental performance and I think its safe to say that we pretty much smashed this one out of the park and long may it continue. Special congratulations to a good mate of mine Darrell (ratfink2) Hall for taking it down, VWP sir!
Of course I will be accepting the guaranteed entry into next season"s team championship, although I"m now going to have a massive selection headache on my hands, but I"ll worry about that nearer the time.
Just a word on the structure of the tourney, as I have seen it mentioned throughout this thread. It may seem obvious for me to say that the structure was fine (because we did so well), but IMHO, any stack larger than 5k would be excessive. 5k represents a 250bb starting stack, which is more than enough for any online tourney with a 10min clock - in fact it would be considered as a superstack in most online tournies with the standard pre-set blind levels. I always stand by the fact that increasing chip stacks will not have that much of an effect on the amount of play in a tournament, its more about getting the structure right. Without looking at it, I"m a bit stuck for suggestions at present - although I"m certainly willing to come back with some ideas, but for me a 5k start stack and no earlier than a 7.30pm start should be fine - a max of 5 hours of play is surely enough for most people, particularly those that have to get up for work the next morning. I played the Hendon Mob league for a few seasons on Ipoker and their start stack was 1500 chips on the same clock, it still worked well, but was a bit too turbo, if they were offered 5k I think they may have thought you were having a bubble bath! Seriously though there is more than enough play in that structure, so personally I would be tempted to leave it as it is and see how things go, it can always be reviewed at a later date.
Right, I"ve ranted on for long enough, thanks again to all concerned.....TEAM LBPN FTW!!!!!
Lee Barrett, aka ShoveOnMe, aka LBPNB055 aka Alwayshastoomuchtosay!
Sugar_Free:
--- Quote from: ShoveOnMe on February 24, 2014, 23:13:50 PM ---
Just a word on the structure of the tourney, as I have seen it mentioned throughout this thread. It may seem obvious for me to say that the structure was fine (because we did so well), but IMHO, any stack larger than 5k would be excessive. 5k represents a 250bb starting stack, which is more than enough for any online tourney with a 10min clock - in fact it would be considered as a superstack in most online tournies with the standard pre-set blind levels. I always stand by the fact that increasing chip stacks will not have that much of an effect on the amount of play in a tournament, its more about getting the structure right. Without looking at it, I"m a bit stuck for suggestions at present - although I"m certainly willing to come back with some ideas, but for me a 5k start stack and no earlier than a 7.30pm start should be fine - a max of 5 hours of play is surely enough for most people, particularly those that have to get up for work the next morning. I played the Hendon Mob league for a few seasons on Ipoker and their start stack was 1500 chips on the same clock, it still worked well, but was a bit too turbo, if they were offered 5k I think they may have thought you were having a bubble bath! Seriously though there is more than enough play in that structure, so personally I would be tempted to leave it as it is and see how things go, it can always be reviewed at a later date.
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I think you are right about a structure for a weekly league, but we are talking about main event medal games which should be deeper. If finishing time is an issue then maybe schedule them for non-school nights.
patrickc:
Just like to congratulate our team Nobody Wants Us which was put together just by people
putting there names forward.To finish second was a great result and with a bit more luck we
would of had 3 on final table,well done lads and look forward to our next game.The online
league starts in 2 weeks and i will be entering a team under the name Nobody Wants Us.
Anyone interested being up for the league i will take the first 5 names put forward because
this year the format for the league is teams of 6. I Look forward to hearing for any names.
ShoveOnMe:
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on February 24, 2014, 23:36:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: ShoveOnMe on February 24, 2014, 23:13:50 PM ---
Just a word on the structure of the tourney, as I have seen it mentioned throughout this thread. It may seem obvious for me to say that the structure was fine (because we did so well), but IMHO, any stack larger than 5k would be excessive. 5k represents a 250bb starting stack, which is more than enough for any online tourney with a 10min clock - in fact it would be considered as a superstack in most online tournies with the standard pre-set blind levels. I always stand by the fact that increasing chip stacks will not have that much of an effect on the amount of play in a tournament, its more about getting the structure right. Without looking at it, I"m a bit stuck for suggestions at present - although I"m certainly willing to come back with some ideas, but for me a 5k start stack and no earlier than a 7.30pm start should be fine - a max of 5 hours of play is surely enough for most people, particularly those that have to get up for work the next morning. I played the Hendon Mob league for a few seasons on Ipoker and their start stack was 1500 chips on the same clock, it still worked well, but was a bit too turbo, if they were offered 5k I think they may have thought you were having a bubble bath! Seriously though there is more than enough play in that structure, so personally I would be tempted to leave it as it is and see how things go, it can always be reviewed at a later date.
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I think you are right about a structure for a weekly league, but we are talking about main event medal games which should be deeper. If finishing time is an issue then maybe schedule them for non-school nights.
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Ok, fair point well made, but how deep do you want to go? I still think 7.5k is excessive (its almost 400bbs) and it creates the style of poker that everyone hates these days, 3bet, 4 bet, 5bet pre-flop with air....just cause you can and then villan flops his straight with 5 3 off suit vs ur AA and you"re spewing. Personally I"d like to get back to proper poker whether it be live or online, these super dooper monster stacks are killing the game! If you really want to go a bit deeper why not try to replicate the current live structure (15k with 25/50 starting blinds = 300bb starting stack) so on that basis, maybe a 6k start stack with blind levels starting at 10/20 with a 7.30pm latest start time, surely that should be more than enough - just my opinion obviously!
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